Adrian,

Perhaps I wasn't as clear as I should have been.  I'm not going
to make any change that accounts for the amount of time a thread spends
waiting for I/O.  Rather, I want to re-expose a statistic which, on a
per-CPU basis, lists the number of threads blocked in biowait().

-j

On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:50:28PM -0700, adrian cockcroft wrote:
> If you are going to fix it, could you add a microstate for iowait so
> we have an accurate per process measure of blocked on diskio. I think
> I filed a bug on this about 5 years ago or more... We already have a
> microstate for page-in wait.
> 
> Adrian
> 
> On 10/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Adrian,
> >biowait() still updates cpu_stats.sys.iowait.  This means that Solaris
> >is still keeping track of the number of threads that are blocked waiting
> >for I/O.  I see no reason not to expose this value to the user.
> >I certainly do not intend to re-introduce a CPU percentage of time
> >waiting for I/O, however.
> >
> >-j
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:37:15PM -0700, adrian cockcroft wrote:
> >> The algorithm for iowait used to be something like: if idle and vmstat
> >> b nonzero then iowait
> >> So on Solaris 10, vmstat b is gone as well as iowait. If you want to
> >> see how much time you are waiting for io, use iostat and add up the
> >> times for each disk.
> >>
> >> Here is one way it was broken, a cpu starts an io, a different cpu
> >> completes the io, which cpu was waiting?
> >>
> >> Adrian
> >>
> >> On 10/18/06, Mike Gerdts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >On 10/18/06, adrian cockcroft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> In Solaris 10, iowait is no longer measured and will be reported as
> >> >> zero by existing tools. Since iowait was always a variant of idle
> >> >> time, this makes no difference to usr or sys time.
> >> >> iowait was always a confusing and useless metric, which is why it was
> >> >removed.
> >> >
> >> >On a related note, I have yet to see vmstat's "b" (kernel threads
> >> >blocked on I/O) column be non-zero.  This includes a large RAC
> >> >environment where the previous measure of I/O health was (don't shoot
> >> >the messenger!) iowait.   The same workload on S9 consistently showed
> >> >non-zero values in the "b" column.
> >> >
> >> >Has the meaning of this value changed as well, or is Solaris 10 just
> >> >that much better at getting I/O out of the queue?
> >> >
> >> >TIA,
> >> >Mike
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Mike Gerdts
> >> >http://mgerdts.blogspot.com/
> >> >
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