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Dr E D F Williams

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Updated: March 30, 2002


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chaso DeChaso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: law and image


> I've attemped to establish film as a medium having a
> faithful connection to reality, the negative being not
> unlike for example a person's shadow, which has a
> sensical connection to the real, in contrast to
> digital imaging, wherein there is a separation from
> reality which occurs when the vestiges of the real are
> transformed into anonymous data.  The argument keeps
> cropping up that since a photo can be altered it is
> fiction anyway and nothing more to do with the real
> than digital is.  I am here arguing that if you use
> the methodology that something can be altered and
> therefore is nothing more than fiction than to be
> consistent one must apply this method to seeing
> itself: since optical illusions are possible and
> distortions are always present in seeing, then seeing
> must be regarded as a fiction (which is in a sense
> technically true, but indeed only technically so,
> since no one lives life disbelieving whatever he sees
> as a matter of course.)  Rules of evidence, if they
> are to equate film and digital by this methodology
> must therefore also equate seeing as pure fiction. 
> Since no one would argue this is so (no one would
> disregard all sightings of a crime as possible
> hallucination), I have undermined the methodology of
> simply saying that film is as fictional as digital
> because it can be altered.
> 
> Chaso
> 
> --- Dr E D F Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Chaos,
> > 
> > What on earth are you talking about?
> > 
> > Don
> > 
> > Dr E D F Williams
> > 
> > http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
> > Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
> > Updated: March 30, 2002
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Chaso DeChaso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 5:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: law and image
> > 
> > 
> > > Right, they are all fiction.  It's as simple as
> > that. 
> > > Also there are optical illusions, distortions,
> > > uncertainties etc. in seeing so seeing is fiction
> > so I
> > > wonder why having seen something occur is
> > evidence?
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Of course they're all fiction, but it is my
> > > 
> > > 
> > > =====
> > > Chaso DeChaso
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "Less is more cheap" - Osvaldo Valdes, Architect
> > > 
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> 
> 
> =====
> Chaso DeChaso
> 
> 
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