Thanks, that was my guess.  

> On Jul 25, 2023, at 11:08 AM, mike wilson <m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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> Black ones seem to be Latrodectus hesperus, the western black widow.  The 
> other is likely Laterodectus geometricus, the brown widow.  The latter is 
> less deadly and has a much greater range.  Newly established in southern 
> California.
>> On 25/07/2023 18:35 Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm pretty confident that the first one is a black widow, but I'm not so 
>> sure about the ones with the striped legs:
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720310015924
>> 
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