I'd had my first camera for a week, and was on board a ship off Funchal, 
Madeira, and wanted to take a shot of the harbour and city lights.  I had no 
idea how to set the camera, and an experienced fellow passenger helped me out.  
He asked two questions :
"What film are you using?" - K32
"What's the lens?" - Colour-Lanthar f2.8
"Ok - set it at 1/30th and f2.8"  - which I did, and it worked perfectly!

On another occasion, a couple of years later, the sun was setting through light 
rain, and,  from a very high hill, and, with my non-metering Pentax SV, decided 
1/8th at f1.8 might work, this time on K64. It did too, and is one of what I 
consider my best images: PDML-ers may recall it from a PESO or gallery entry a 
long time ago.
So we did get good images by guess and by God,  although we also had a lot of 
misses!


John in Brisbane




-----Original Message-----
From: Alan C <c...@lantic.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 7:21 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: K3-III metering

Sunny 16 is more applicable to tropical locations with bright light. 
Perhaps something like Sunny 11 in Temperate climates? Those were starting 
points for 100ASA film at 1/100 sec. From there it was all mental arithmetic or 
the use of tables.

Alan C

On 26-Apr-23 08:34 AM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> Either film is a lot more forgiving, or our standards were a lot lower.
>
> On April 25, 2023 11:07:37 PM PDT, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>> "Sunny F16"
>> "Cloudy F8"
>> "Dark F5.6"
>>
>> All on Kodachrome 64 - it's a wonder we got so many keepers!
>>
>> John in Brisbane
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ralf R Radermacher <fotor...@gmx.de>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:57 PM
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Subject: Re: K3-III metering
>>
>> Am 25.04.23 um 15:45 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi:
>>
>>> My best "meter" for difficult situations like that is a Kodak Pocket Photo 
>>> Guide. It has an exposure calculator based on descriptions of scene type, 
>>> and I've found its suggestions to be right on the mark nearly all the time.
>> "f8 and be there" :-)
>>
>> Ralf
>>
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