> On Jan 8, 2023, at 2:24 PM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote: > > Nope. I never said that there is a one true way. I'm not the one who said > that somebody is using their computer wrong.
Who said that? I certainly didn't. > Cherish what follows: > > You're right Godfrey. > > The OS is not the user interface, the OS is the low level software that > interacts with the hardware and acts as the interface between "user programs" > and the hardware. Some operating systems give you your choice of multiple > user interfaces. At the console you can use sh, ksh, bash, csh, even zsh. > I'm still not sure what the benefits of zsh are supposed to be. They also let > you pick between multiple graphic user interfaces. Oh great. So we have seven different text interfaces and multiple graphic user interfaces. Great stuff for allowing everyone to develop expertise … a system that has no baseline of operations. > >> >>> Odd that you mention work. I needed to do this for work. I was actually >>> trying to use my mac for work rather than play. >> >> I've used Apple computers for my work since 1984. At NASA/JPL, Molecular >> Design, Apple, Sun Microsystems, as a contractor, and again at Apple until I >> retired. Now I use them to do my photographic work, which continue to net a >> small supplementary income. So I have always used Apple computers and >> operating systems for my work. >> >> I've written drivers for NASA radar imaging systems flying on the >> shuttlecraft and other spacecraft, device control apps for the Deep Space >> Net, Orbital Debris Detection apps for detecting stuff that can hit space >> stations and orbiting spacecraft, chemical research database apps and remote >> interfaces, and participated in the development of eight operating systems >> using Apple systems on macOS, along with myriad other smaller ventures. Not >> to mention written three books and produced 22 exhibition suites as well for >> my photographic and writing endeavors. >> >> If you consider this play, well, that's your misapprehension. > > Perhaps I was a bit hyperbolic. For the things that I've done > professionally, other operating systems have done a better job of staying out > of my way. Obviously if I was coding iOS apps, then MacOS would be superior. 80% of the software I authored ran on custom, bespoke hardware … not Apple (macOS, iOS, iPadOS, tvOS) at all. macOS gave me facilities in creating that software that I found on no other systems … that's why I chose it. I could have used any system at all, my budget for some of those things ran into the millions of dollars. >> I would expect that you understand what an AppleID and the iCloud Drive file >> system is, > > If I had any use for them I would, but in my experience most of what they > have done has made my life more complicated. Yes, iCloud does help my "mail > client that was written by Apple", since you don't like the moniker macmail, > sync between various machines. That is Mail.app, not "macmail". Perhaps if you actually understood these things, you might find that there is some value in them. > What was the answer you gave him? You're the one that has been using Apple > software for twice as long as I. My response to Rick was posted to PDML two days ago, my other response this morning. Go read them. > Apple has almost always been very good at what their focus is. At first it > was making affordable computers. At some point their goal was to make money > by making computers that someone who is totally computer naive can use. At > one point their goal was to make money by making excellent computers that > Steve Jobs would want to use. Now it seems that their goal is to make money > by selling Apple services and cell phones. You again show a remarkable misapprehension of what Apple has done. >> Otherwise, you're just blowing hot air based upon your personal prejudices >> and misunderstanding of the technology. >> >> I prefer to attempt to be helpful when someone asks a question—not just tell >> them that I don't like the computer they're using, what's wrong with it in >> my view, or disparage how it is intended to be used. The fact that you >> prefer to do those three things is what I perceive as your unproductive >> attitude. > > Actually what I said was that I had been frustrated by the same problem. At > one point in this discussion I even posted a link to a web page that > purported to solve that very problem, which some might say was a bit more > helpful than telling them that their problem doesn't exist. Read my posts, as above, and try to understand them. The page you posted was published in 2012. > Though, perhaps we should give this topic a rest, and as has been discussed > elsewhere, get back to talking about our Pentax cameras. I don't own any of those any more, sold all my Pentax gear long ago except for one lens. My final piece of Pentax gear is the lovely SMC-Pentax-L 43mm f/1.9 Special lens which I use on three different cameras. I participate in threads here that discuss photographs, image processing workflow, Apple computer/device/OS/software issues, and topics that support photography only, not gear questions. That's where I can lend expertise to discussions. G -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
