The US is much closer to minimizing fossil fuel dependence. A number of states 
are generating more than 20 percent of electricity with renewable energy. Of 
course we are better positioned for solar.

Paul

> On Jul 12, 2019, at 9:23 PM, mike wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 12 July 2019 at 23:20 Steve Cottrell <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/7/19, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> The other big issue with batteries is the the electrickery has to be
>>> generated somehow and, at present, that means burning fossil fuels.
>> 
>> On a global scale, certainly. But nuclear fission power in the UK has almost 
>> completely obliterated fossil fuel burning. Coal-fired is gone, just need to 
>> knock off the gas burning.
>> 
>> That said, nuclear is ahem far from 'clean'....
> 
> And the renewal programme (which should just cover our present needs) is in 
> meltdown.  If you'll pardon the pun.  Not a snowball's chance of producing 
> enough juice to deal with mass conversion to electrical transport.  
> Renewables?  Not even close to coping with the present fleet of Leafs and 
> Zoes, never mind the millions more supposedly landing on our roads in the 
> next few years.  Even with the present run of mildish winters we have come 
> very close to rationing during the darkest days.  Only the pipelines to the 
> dreaded Yurp have kept us topped up - that may become an issue in the next 
> few years if we leave.
> 
> Another issue with elecric vehicles is that the batteries lose capacity much 
> quicker than IC engines wear out.  There are plenty of stories of buyers 
> finding that their 2-3-4 year old, low mileage car will now not do the 
> (already generous) 200 miles suggested by the manufacturer on a full charge 
> but substantially less than 50.
> 
>> 
>> The problem with hydrogen is making the hydrogen in the first place....
> 
> Indeed it is.  Although it's more of "a" problem, as there are plenty more.
> 
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