We don't have to put up with that sort of shit over here, we have Europe-wide 
laws about it. You should apply to join the EU - I hear there's a place going 
spare.

> On 31 Jan 2019, at 18:38, Daniel J. Matyola <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Never, never "unsubscribe" by clicking the link for doing so contained in
> the spam email.  That only lets them confirm that it is a live email
> address and is being read or at least monitored.  They then sell than
> information.
> 
> Instead, you can block all emails from that address.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 6:53 AM Igor PDML-StR <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It happened again: SPAM (aka UCE) from Adorama, despite being
>> unsubscribed.
>> 
>> With very few exceptions, with all stores and services where I have
>> accounts, I immediately unsubscribe from all their spam-lists.
>> 
>> This morning, I received a spam message from Adorama. Using the link
>> "Manage subscriptions" at the bottom of the message, I went to their
>> website and my account had the status "unsubscribed".
>> So, I called their customer service.
>> The representative who answered, told me: "You need to be unsubscribed on
>> our side too."
>> What?!
>> According to her, my preferences do not matter much.
>> 
>> I spoke with the customer service (CS) supervisor, who did not confirm
>> that there is a separate preference, but he told me that there are two
>> accounts: (he failed to explain it clearly, here is the best I could
>> get from him:) one on their end and one that I see online.
>> He assured that I am now unsubscribed, and it was probably a glitch,
>> bla-bla-bla. But he gave no clear explanation why my choice on the account
>> didn't matter, and why there was a sudden change in the subscription.
>> 
>> 
>> The problem is that it has been a recurring issue with Adorama:
>> I had already received spam from them before, despite being unsubscribed.
>> And then I unsubscribed, and the spam stopped for a while.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have been having rather similar recurring problem with Adoramapix:
>> I started receiving spam from them in 2016, from which I
>> unsubscribed in July (2016). Then again, I started receiving spam in March
>> of 2017. I spoke with their CS manager in April of 2017, who assured me
>> that I was unsubscribed at that point again and it will stick.
>> 
>> Lo and behold, in January of 2019, I started receiving their spam again.
>> I called and spoke with the same CS manager. Unlike the Adorama manager
>> this morning, he did not mumble the nonsense about a glitch.
>> He blamed it all on their marketing department, telling me that he has no
>> control over their actions, but he made sure that I was unsubscribed again.
>> Actually, with me on the phone, he walked (presumably) to their marketing
>> department and told them: "Please make sure this address is unsubscribed."
>> But he didn't ask: "Why did this customer became subscribed again after I
>> unsubscribed him?", or better yet, "Why the hell,...?"
>> 
>> All these facts suggest that both Adorama and Adoramapix have unscrupulous
>> marketing departments that do not respect their customers.
>> I doubt it is done without the knowledge of AdoramaPix and Adorama upper
>> management.
>> 
>> I stopped using Adoramapix a while ago because of the problems I had with
>> them in July of 2016.
>> I've made many purchases from Adorama over 22-year period (the most
>> recent in December).
>> 
>> But, I have low respect for the companies who do not respect their
>> customers and their customers' preferences.
>> 
>> 
>> By the way,
>> Previously, I had a somewhat similar experience with B&H. When I
>> complained  about that, they (Henry P. whom many PDMLers know, especially
>> Bill :-) ) were rather open about how the resubscription happens.
>> And they did eventually change their sneaky resubscription practice,
>> which I respect.
>> You can read that story from 2016 here:
>> 
>> https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/106-ask-b-h-photo/326729-b-h-keeps-re-subscribing-me-e-mail-newsletters.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for reading, and Caveat Emptor!
>> 
>> Igor
>> 
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