It is sad, I agree....but one MUST keep up or suffer the indignity of
a technology deficit and social
isolation. 
Poor devils!
J

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> On Sep 26, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Ken Waller <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Igor posed the question -
>> ...what do you think about what is shown in the photograph discussed in that 
>> blogpost?
> 
> 
> I think what is shown is the superficial nature of those taking the 'selfie' 
> and the almost total immersion into social media of many of today's populace.
> It also reminds me of the quest for 5 minutes of fame.
> 
> Sad, IMO.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor PDML-StR" <[email protected]>
> Subject: OT - "We live not to be there, but to be seen to be there."
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> This morning someone sent me a link to a brief blogpost on Cnet, which got 
>> me (re)evaluating - (re)thinking certain aspects of photography in our 
>> lives. The photo was of a crowd in front of a famous politician waving at 
>> them, while most people turned their backs and taking selfies of themselves 
>> with the famous people being the background.
>> (The link is below, but first the thoughts.)
>> 
>> Over many years of taking photographs, sometimes as tourist (i.e. in very 
>> touristic places, etc.), - I've been offered by others (friends, relatives, 
>> bystanders) to take a picture of _me_. ... or rather of _me__being__there_.
>> Not that I was against those (and sometimes I did want some picture, 
>> especially with friends or family), but I was not particularly ego to get 
>> those. I wanted to take some interesting (at least to me) of the views from 
>> that place.
>> One of the repeated questions/comments I had (usually not from close friends 
>> or relatives who already knew what I am after, but from more distant 
>> friends): "Why do you need those? - See there, they sell cards with this 
>> view already printed."
>> 
>> Why was/am I taking those photos?
>> 1. I enjoy _taking_ them and
>> 2. I enjoy looking at them later, as they remind me of good time I had 
>> there. And often, aftre many years, I remember the photos I've taken even 
>> without looking at them: they are a connection for that place, person, 
>> event. ... even though I might not be in those pictures myself.
>> (As an aside, - I appreciate the fact of being in some of those photos more 
>> now, as my daughter is growing up, - so, that she can see her dad in those 
>> photos too.)
>> 
>> Now, getting back to the conclusion quoted in the Subject of this message.
>> Yes, selfie is the fad du jour [is that tautology?].
>> To this date, most of the selfies I've taken are with my SLR (with a tripod 
>> or a mirror help). But I don't want to judge those people who enjoy selfies: 
>> to each of his/her own. And to some extent, those people aren't that much 
>> different from those stranger on the street who are ego to pose for you even 
>> though they are never going to see that photo. (This was a very frequent 
>> situation with kid groups in Japan.)
>> 
>> 
>> My understanding of the said blogpost is that someone is trying to question 
>> of how polite it is to take a selfie with a famous person (and hence turning 
>> one's behind to her/him) as opposed to piercing with your eyes and listening.
>> 
>> That brought to memories yet another story. Long time ago, one famous 
>> Russian poet wrote a song that was "thinking" about a family being 
>> photographed in front of the monument to the famous Russian poet Alexandr 
>> Pushkin. The idea was based on the juxtaposition of the timelessness and 
>> greatness of someone whose fame survived the test of centuries, and 
>> "todayliness" of the concerns and that-minute problems of that family. I 
>> remember that a friend was thinking that the author was criticizing the 
>> family, and that that type of photo was awkward or even ridiculous due to 
>> the contrast. While I understand that point of view (and I personally do not 
>> like taking photographs of people (and myself) specifically with someone's 
>> _personal_ monument), I never felt comfortable with that criticism. And I've 
>> always thought that the song's author was just bringing up the contrast as a 
>> way to highlight the simultaneous distance and closeness of the great and 
>> small, old and contemporary, timeless and tr
 ansient.
>> 
>> But back to today's photo, here is what I am curious to hear from you, deal 
>> PDMLers:
>> As photographers with different preferences, views and reasons to take 
>> photographs, what do you think about what is shown in the photograph 
>> discussed in that blogpost?
>> (Please, let's not digress into a political debate about the specific 
>> politician, so, let's keep the political comments on mute.)
>> 
>> Here is the blogpost in question: https://goo.gl/VC5fU3 .
>> 
>> Thanks in advance to all who will respond.
>> 
>> Igor
> 
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