Yeah, I really like their projection on the 8mm. Its probably one of
the best projections out there. The 10-20 I used was indeed the
variable aperture one. Compared to my 12-24, there's just no contest.

On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Rob Studdert <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have their 8mm, it's actually a nice optic, it's not strictly
> fish-eye either. It's has a stereographic projection which translates
> to less objectionable distortion in the corners than a regular
> fish-eye and when used to shoot multi-image panos a better stitch.
>
> On 8 December 2013 06:27, Zos Xavius <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The problem with their lenses is really build quality. They have
>> really good optics, no doubt about that (especially for the cost), but
>> if you look at lensrentals repair list they are all at the top. If
>> they started making nice metal bodied primes, a lot more people would
>> take them more seriously. Then again their prices would go up as well,
>> so I'm all for the cheap plastic fantastics myself. The 24 they make
>> is kind of interesting, but I really want their 8mm fisheye which is
>> pretty superb. This 10 is very intriguing as well. I can't wait to see
>> some shots with it from a K-3. If they can keep distortion low and
>> give good edge to edge sharpness at middle fstops, they will have a
>> real winner.
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Dec 08, 2013 at 02:24:16AM +1100, Rob Studdert wrote:
>>>> The edges aren't that bad on the Sigma 10-20/3.5, they are better than
>>>> the Sigma 14/2.8 and the old Pentax A15/3.5. At 10mm wide open it's a
>>>> soft right at the extremes but generally if it needs to be used wide
>>>> open then light is poor anyhow and the image doesn't suffer for the
>>>> lack of edge sharpness.
>>>>
>>>> On 8 December 2013 01:14, Zos Xavius <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > I'm not a big fan of the sigma WA zooms. The edges on the 10-20 aren't
>>>> > great IMO.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Rob Studdert <[email protected]> 
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >> It looks mildly interesting, unless you have a Sigma 10-20/3.5 which
>>>> >> is no optical slouch, is less than a stop slower, provides a more
>>>> >> versatile focal length range, has HSM focus which allows full manual
>>>> >> override and is cheaper.
>>>
>>> I've found that the 2/3 stop between f/1.4 and f/1.7 can make a big
>>> difference, and that shooting indoors with my 8/3.5 I tend to get a
>>> lot of that "artsy subject motion blur".  I'll be very interested in
>>> seeing how this lens works.
>>>
>>> If Samyang ever starts putting their optics in lenses with autofocus,
>>> Tamron and Sigma will be in serious trouble.  Then again, if they start
>>> doing that, their lenses won't be nearly so inexpensive.
>>>
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