On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 07:04:09PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote:
> Good gawd no, Larry. You only do that for sheer comedy.
> 
> Here's what happens when you pose men like women:
> http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/alicia-mariah-elfving-ducati-dealership
> 
> Try to view that with a straight face. I dare you! ;-)

I think that that page goes a long way to pointing out some of the
ridiculousness that is common in photographing women. 
I suppose that I should have said "equivalent" rather than the
"the same" pose.  

> 
> More seriously: watch how the pros pose men vs women. They even have

And there are differences between the way they will post people of the
same sex or gender with different builds.  I'm a big fan of both 
Weston's and Cunningham's nudes, so I did a google image search on
"cunningham nude", there are a lot of her pictures that would work
equally well with men in similar poses.  


> gender names for the poses. There are enormous differences and you
> don't want to feminize men (unless you want a punch in the nose) or in
> general, masculinize women (ubless they ask you to or it's for
> effect).

For example, here are Candice's photos of me:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=75558245@N00&q=larry

And some of my photos of a friend:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157625920855489/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629250099556/
The second set mostly involves poses that I simply could not get 
into, even at my most flexible, and even so may not work as well
with the male form, even beyond flexibility, but I think that most
of the poses of me would work nearly as well with women as with 
a guy, and likewise I think that most of the poses in the first
set of my friend are fairly gender neutral.  

This, by the way, from the second set:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6845930276/in/set-72157629250099556

Is one of my favorite of all my photos

> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 06:21:50PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote:
> >>
> >> My own preferences are to shoot women. I understand much better what
> >> makes interesting-to-me shots of a woman (clothed or un) whereas I
> >> have very little clue what would make an interesting-to-me male shot.
> >> I honestly just haven't given it much thought. I will one day, but up
> >> to now: no interest. So sue me.
> >
> > I will argue that the principles of light and composition for
> > a male body are the same as for a female, and as long as sexuality
> > is not of concern, then shooting a man is the same as shooting a
> > woman.
> >
> > I would even propose that you talk to one of your models about doing
> > a photo session of her and her boyfriend.  Pose and photograph her,
> > then photograph him in the same pose.
> >
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