I've stayed out of this one so far, but here are a few thoughts.

This isn't about quality or price!

Pentax will never get into the 35mm pro world in the same way as Canon and 
Nikon until and unless it does the same deals with rentals and loaners as they 
do.  Even then, it would take years to establish an organisation capable of 
being at every major sports venue and political meeting in order to provide the 
breakdown service that pro's need, and you still have to get them to switch 
from their D1's etc.  If it's too hard and/or too expensive for members of this 
list to switch brands, how do you think most newsrooms and agency photographers 
would go trying to persuade their editors to replace all the existing gear 
holus-bolus?

As far as Joe Sixpack is concerned, from where does he get the impression that 
pro's only use Canon and Nikon?  Not from newspapers or weekly generalist 
magazines, nor from watching photographers at work (how many of us regularly 
see a media mob for long enough to work out the numbers of brands in use?). 
 IMO, this impression, if it exists outside the ranks of amateur photographers 
at all, comes from two sources:  the first is specialist advertising, in mags 
such as National Geographic and other glossies, which use high quality and 
dramatic images attributed to a particular brand (and in at least one case, the 
stated camera used was not the one that took the picture!).  Secondly, when JS 
walks into a camera store with a fistful of dollars (or plastic) in his hot 
little hand, and says to the salesman 'I want a good camera', he's going to 
walk out with the one that the store is making most profit on/is going out of 
range/ is offering the most spiffs on.  Very few of these types of sales are 
based on a rational analysis, because mostly the customer has no idea of the 
technology he's buying, and is easily impressed with such rubbish as '45 focus 
points' when a tenth of that number will work perfectly well (or, for our 
manual focus aficionados, none!).

For Pentax, they make a large number of P&S models aimed at the low-end film 
market, and presumably do very well out of them.  They now have in the market a 
couple of digital models which have been well reviewed, but are at the top end 
price-wise. (Incidentally, I think that saying that Pentax have no experience 
at making digitals simply because they haven't yet marketed an SLR is doubtful: 
they have already had some years experience of the practical manufacture of 
digital cameras, and there cannot be much difference in designing the control 
interfaces whether you are using an SLR or P&S body.  The essential is to 
capture the image at the sensor and store it - same technology whatever the 
shape of the body.)

The final factor has to be marketing, and that is not just a question of 
advertising to the public.  Pentax must get the product on the shelves and in 
the display windows, and in the stores with sufficient incentives to sales 
staff to sell it.  They must raise their brand awareness with JS - to me, I'd 
be pushing the high level of use of the 645 and 6x7 amongst professionals as a 
major plus point, allowing the carrot to be dangled of a cheaper way in to 'the 
Pentax way' than these high-end cameras and for P&S users, a good upgrade path 
from their current kit.

When (not if), Pentax markets a digital SLR using the current lens range, with 
or without an adaptor, I will probably buy one if the price is reasonable - and 
I don't set any level at this stage.  However, it will be because I _want_ a 
DSLR, not simply because everyone else says they're the thing to have.  it 
woulf be good if it were full frame, but if it's of the order of 4-5 
megapixels, that will be quite good enough for what i will use it for - 
personal stuff for digital display or transmission, and  it's certainly most 
unlikely I'd ever want an exhibition quality print from it.

A little more than 2 cents worth - sorry!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia


> "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> >Whether or not the amateur will ever invest in the "pro" camera
> >is immaterial. What is important to the consumer is the cachet
> >value that the brand imparts. Having an F5 in the lineup makes
> >an F50 look like better equipment.
> >The benefit derived is purely psychological, but is more
> >important than any operating function of the camera.
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