I think you are right Zos. All I can recall clearly is that my thumb severely 
mangled the moving part of the shutter mechanism. The damaged cloth shutter I 
was thinking of was in the Leica I inherited and had to have repaired. Still 
haven't put any film through that paper weight!

stan

On Jan 31, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

> Didn't the pz-1p have a titanium vertical  shutter? I  think it would be 
> pretty hard to get to 1/8000 with a cloth shutter....
> 
> Stan Halpin <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote:
>>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> People have mentioned a concern with "losing" cards as a reason to
>> go
>>>>>> with smaller cards, thereby minimizing the quantity of images that
>>>>>> might be lost. I have two thoughts about that. First, if it is a
>> 32GB
>>>>>> or 64GB card in the camera and I almost certainly won't fill the
>> card
>>>>>> in one day of vacation/travel shooting, then the card stays in the
>>>>>> camera all day. The only way to lose it is to lose the camera. If
>> it
>>>>>> is a smaller capacity card that I need to swap out during the day,
>>>>>> then there would be more chance of physically losing or damaging
>> the
>>>>>> card during or after a card swap. The second kind of "lose" of
>> images
>>>>>> could be from a failure of the SD card itself. Again, I assume
>> that
>>>>>> less handling of the cards will reduce the chance of causing
>> damage
>>>>>> to the cards, and again the strategy of "big card, don't swap"
>> makes
>>>>>> sense to me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How do you back up your day's shooting?
>>>> 
>>>> Download to my laptop (using LR) with a backup to an external hard
>> drive.
>>>> 
>>>> Depending on card capacity, how many cards I have with me, what is
>> up
>>>> the next day, etc. I may just put the card back in the camera or I
>> may
>>>> store it and put in a fresh card. At the end of a trip I would like
>>>> to have three copies of everything: laptop hard drive, external hard
>>>> drive, and originals on the card(s). If I am running short of space
>> on
>>>> the card(s) I'll go ahead and reformat one or two but I try to avoid
>>>> that just to be safe.
>>> 
>>> Okay, so you do pop the card out to download -- that wasn't clear
>> from
>>> your previous post.
>>> -- 
>> 
>> Yes, but only in the peace and quiet of a hotel room, etc. 
>> Back in the BD era (before digital), I was in a dugout canoe being
>> taken across a small river in Panama on my way to visit a native
>> village, a village noted for their artisans. Reallylooking forward to
>> some shots of the locals at work and of thier finished product. Spotted
>> a couple of Ibis along the shore. Snapped the last frame on the roll in
>> the camera (PZ-1p), quickly rewound, reloaded. In my haste, a certain
>> amount of rocking back and forth of the dugout ensued. No, I didn't
>> drop either film or camera in the river. Instead I poked my thumb
>> through the cloth shutter curtain. The end of photography for that
>> trip. Lesson 1: it is worth the bother to carry a 2nd camera. Lesson 2:
>> don't try to change film in a dugout canoe while in the middle of a
>> river. I have since extrapolated #2 to a more general lesson: don't
>> change recording media in the heat of the moment; wait for a quiet time
>> and place, thus avoiding potential disasters that might befall media
>> and/or camera.
>> 
>> stan
> 
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