I think you've solved the problem with the eye. The tension is still there. I might try to go further working on the brow, although I can see that it would be difficult to do it well. Not sure I could. The hair brightening may be a minus. Because some of the shadow have no detail, the result of lightening the hair overall is somewhat of a disconnect between the bright areas and the deep shadows. You may want to stick with the original lighting on the hair. Of course it's all subjective. As you well know, rendering is always a puzzle with numerous solutions and lots of ways of getting to them. Finding the right solution is the hard part. On May 27, 2012, at 9:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> Absolutely! I replaced it on Flickr, so if you look at the same link > as before ... > > http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/ > > you'll see the revised one. > > > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> > wrote: >> You're welcome, Bruce. Your photo was excellent to begin with, so it's worth >> making it as perfect as possible. When it comes to fixing photos that are >> less than perfect, I have more experience than I care to admit to. Can we >> see the result? >> >> On May 27, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >>> Okay, Paul, did that. Also lightened-up her hair and much ofthe whole >>> left side of her face. I think that reduces that "lazy eye" illusion >>> plus revealing her nice hair a lot more. >>> >>> Thanks for your critique and pointers, Paul! >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Paul Stenquist >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> You could probably release a bit of the tension in her face by smoothing >>>> out her brow above her left eye. Worth a try IMO. >>>> Paul >>>> On May 25, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm sure you've seen Hurrell's work, if you've seen any b&w shots of >>>>> Hollywood stars. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=george+hurrell&tbm=isch >>>>> >>>>> I agree her hair needs to be revealed more, and I need to brighten her >>>>> eye as well, per Paul's suggestion, so I'm off to do some >>>>> dodge'n'burn. :-) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, Bob! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Bob Sullivan <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Bruce, >>>>>> I don't know George Hurrell's style at all, but I enjoyed the photo. >>>>>> For such a glamorous shot, I miss her luxurious hair...needs light! >>>>>> Regards, Bob S. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Bruce Walker <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Was introduced to a lovely lady who wanted to do a creative shoot. I >>>>>>> suggested Hollywood glamour ala George Hurrell and she said yeah ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is the first of a few I'll be retouching. The goal was B&W, but I >>>>>>> couldn't resist keeping this one colour. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The shoot took place yesterday in The Gallery Studio Cafe in New >>>>>>> Toronto. There's a piano, which of course we made use of, and a nicely >>>>>>> decorated bar with a big ol' espresso machine, which also made it into >>>>>>> some shots. We basically had the run of the place. Dorothy enlisted >>>>>>> two of her ex-colleagues (she was an on-air personality with a talk >>>>>>> show on Rogers cable TV) for makeup and hair and they did a superb >>>>>>> job. I have BTS shots of the two of them working on Dorothy >>>>>>> simultaneously. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wanted to get the "focussed-light with rapid fall-off" look typical >>>>>>> of George Hurrell's work, so I used the ring-light-in-a-softbox that I >>>>>>> created especially for the shoot and tested on my wife last week. >>>>>>> George used multiple big hotlights with fresnel lenses to get his >>>>>>> look, so we clearly would only be able to approximate it but I think >>>>>>> we didn't do too badly. He also spent hours dodging and burning to get >>>>>>> his deep shadows and body contouring, so at least that part I'll be >>>>>>> able to emulate accurately! :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 39mm/f:8.0, 100 ISO, 125th sec. >>>>>>> AF160 ringlight in 18" Westcott Apollo softbox on monopod, held above >>>>>>> and in front of subject's face. >>>>>>> AF540 in 42" silvered umbrella for fill, camera-left. >>>>>>> AF540 with snoot for hair, well back camera-right. >>>>>>> Cowboy Studios radio triggers. >>>>>>> Lr and Ps for post and retouching. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Comments welcome! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -bmw >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>>>> follow the directions. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>>> follow the directions. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -bmw >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>> follow the directions. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -bmw >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
