There are two common crops for dSLRs as compared to FF SLR, 1.5 (Nikon
and Pentax) and 1.6 (Canon).

Canon has a 1.3 crop on some of their pro bodies.

P&S sensors are a whole other barrel of fish and there are many sizes,
but they don't correlate because the lenses are not interchangeable.

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Keith Whaley <[email protected]> wrote:
> P N Stenquist wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Keith Whaley wrote:
>>
>>> Bong Manayon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thinking of ...
>>>> 1. Pentax DA 12-24
>>>> 2. Sigma 10-20
>>>> 3. Tamron 10-24
>>>> Am not into fish-eyes so those options are out.  Any votes for or
>>>> against any of those listed above?
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Bong
>
>>> I don't think those focal lengths are 35mm-equivalent numbers. I suspect
>>> they're double ~ such as the Pentax DA 12-24 is really like a 35mm lens of
>>> 24-48mm focal length.
>>> Nice wide angle-to-normal lens, but hardly a fish-eye...
>
>> First, the conversion factor for angle of view is 1.5.
>
> Was Bong talking about a specific camera? I know we were talking digitals,
> but, I thought each camera had it's own conversion camera. In my limited
> experience, which does NOT include DSLRs, most cameras differ a little as to
> what their 35mm equivalent is.
> I avoid the uncertainty by referring to the owner's manual for each camera.
> They always mention it...
>
>> So the 12-24 has the same _angle of view_ on an APS-C DSLR
>> as an 18-36 would have on a conventional 35 mm frame.
>
> Cropping factor, or what I call the telephoto effect, brought on by the size
> of the sensor. In other words, the ratio derives from how much smaller the
> DSLR's sensor is compared to 35mm film size.
> See:
>
>      http://www.minasi.com/photos/dslrmag/
>
>> However, the focal length is 12-24. That doesn't change, regardless of the
>> format. Furthermore, it's not a fisheye on any format. It's a rectilinear
>> lens. In other words, the optics make the verticals as true as possible
>> given the size of the elements and the constraints of physical science.
>> Paul
>
> Quite so. Thanks Paul.
>
> keith whaley
>
>
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