Ken,  Thanks for the interesting insight.  Bob S.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Ken Waller<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I blame the UAW for the economics of the industry, not the assembly
>> line problems.
>
> Bob
> I worked in the Ford St Louis Assembly plant for several years as the
> Vehicle Resident Engineer during the mid to late 80's.
> I could go on and on about union caused assembly line issues but I can tell
> you that toward the end of my stay at the plant (I returned to Dearborn)
> these issues became almost non existent, as the union realised they had to
> do the very best they could do to protect their jobs (non selling vehicles =
> less/no jobs).The transformation was simply unbelieveable - wouldn't have
> believed it unless I experienced it.
>
> Bad union/company relationship at the assembly is no where near as bad as it
> use to be.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Sullivan" <[email protected]>
>
> Subject: Re: Consumer Reports on "cool cameras"
>
>
>> Ken,
>> I blame the UAW for the economics of the industry, not the assembly
>> line problems.  The union might as well have used a mask and a gun to
>> hold up the auto makers in the '60's.  That's when I notices the big
>> wages and generous benefit packages.  You could argue that it was
>> better to hire on with a UAW job at an auto maker than spend money
>> going to college.  Company managements always gave in and just passed
>> the costs back to the customers.  Cheaper foreign manufacturing
>> eventually broke the paradyme that union and management were using, to
>> the advantage of the consumer.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Adam Maas<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Ken Waller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I blame the United Auto Workers for all the industry problems.
>>>>
>>>> I'd agree if the issues were assembly related.
>>>>
>>>> Kenneth Waller
>>>
>>> Which a fair amount of them were/are. Can't blame the UAW for
>>> everything though, the Detroit management and the dealers are as much
>>> or more to blame for the Big 3's problems as the UAW.
>>>
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>>> M. Adam Maas
>>> http://www.mawz.ca
>>> Explorations of the City Around Us.
>
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