Artur,

Certainly to each his own.  I have owned/used the following Pentax
bodies: MX, SuperProgram, ZX-10, ZX-M, PZ-1p and MZ-S.  Of the bunch,
the *only* Pentax that doesn't use the aperture ring for aperture
priority is the PZ-1p.  I have used a ZX-50, and because of lack of
aperture coupling (crippling it for older lenses), it requires pushing
the shutter collar back and forth.  However, it doesn't have a
dedictated control for aperture vs. shutter, making it extremely
clumsy for manual mode.

I suspect that since I have come from a long line (including Canon,
Olypus and Nikon) of aperture ring lenses for many, many years, I do
not find using the aperture ring as a problem.  When I had my PZ-1p's,
I did use the thumb dial, but did not find it inherently superior to
the other method.  Just different.

I hope that in the future Pentax releases a camera that fits your
style.  However, other than lower models, I suspect that the future
has been shown by the lack of success of the PZ-1p.  With digital
looming, we may not really see much of anything beyond the MZ-S.
Perhaps the rumored LX II?  But that certainly will not function like
the PZ-1p.

Good luck in your quest.


Bruce Dayton



Friday, December 28, 2001, 7:06:47 AM, you wrote:

AL> Bruce,
AL> Well, this actually was written by Robert, NOT me:))
AL> However, I agree with his statement a bit. Your way is still a Tv, isn't it?
AL> As for me - I have the MZ-7, which, as you surely know, lacks c/w and spot
AL> metering. But I use ML button VERY often. When shooting landscapes or still
AL> life, your idea will work fine but how about shooting something that is in
AL> motion? I don't mean shooting action, since this is the subject when you
AL> probably would always shoot in the Tv, usually with the same aperture, that
AL> you would have probably set before... I mean the situation, when you have to
AL> control both aperture and shutter speed, i.e. when you have to both control
AL> dof and freeze/blur the movement... I don't say it's impossible but it's
AL> much more complicated, than using the good, old Av - I'm sure about it.
AL> Well, it's all about personal preferencies... I like the way my MZ-7
AL> operates and since it's much like the Z-1p does, I prefer the latter to the
AL> MZ-S.
AL> Which is actually pain in my butt, since the MZ-S is technologically far
AL> more advanced. I'd like to have 6-sensors AF, MRC, HSS, exposure data
AL> imprinting, battery grip but personally the Z-1p suits my hands better. I'm
AL> not sure if I want to invest in the old technology, so perhaps I'll buy the
AL> Z-1p, if it's a real bargain. Otherwise I'll wait for another body - maybe
AL> MZ-6 (athough I don't like the idea of hiding the spot metering among PF's -
AL> what's the reason for this?), maybe some replacement of MZ-5n/3?
AL> Greetz
AL> Artur

AL> ----- Original Message -----
AL> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
AL> Subject: Re[2]: Aperature Ring On MZ-S


>> Artur,
>>
>> If slight movement of the viewfinder would cause the meter to read
>> differently, then you are relying too much on the automation of the
>> camera.  Generally, I meter pointing where I want, in center weighted
>> or spot and then lock.  So moving around a bit won't have any effect.
>> Remember that you moving a bit doesn't change the lighting, only the
>> camera's view.  So what I said still holds.  Point where I want to
>> meter, spin the dial to get the f stop I want and then do the final
>> composition.
>>
>>
>> Bruce Dayton
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