In a message dated 12/6/2008 11:37:53 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Marnie

I  wonder if these objects are Venus and Jupiter.  They are  reasonably
close together at present and can be very bright.

Jupiter  sets first leaving Venus, the brighter one, alone and very low
on the  horizon, much like your second image.

Not an expert on these things,  though.......



Cheers

Brian

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Could  be. May be. I've never ever seen Venus so BIG and so BRIGHT before, 
though.  Wonder why it is now?

Still going to try to get a better pic. (Help,  anyone have advice about 
that?)

Later, Marnie  :-)

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