On Thu, 06 Dec 2001 10:13:26 GMT, you wrote:

>"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
>
>"I'll say this and no more: when you ~manually~ set the aperture, the 
>"variable aperture" becomes a "preset" (by you) aperture. Nothing you do 
>while zooming will (can) change the aperture until (you) change it to a 
>different setting. **And it does not matter whether you set it wide open or 
>close it down all the way. The aperture CANNOT (does not) change until you 
>change it-period." 
>
>
>Er... simply, **this** (is) ~wrong~ -period.
>Regards
>Jim Brooks 

How right you are, Jim. Selecting F8 at the aperture ring will give
F11 at the tele end of a variable aperture zoom, assuming the zoom
varies by a whole stop.

Of course, one might not notice this difference in the viewfinder of a
Super Program or other camera that reads in full stops, if the
variable aperture zoom varies by only one stop; but one would
certainly notice the exposure difference in the resulting slides if
one used the same selected Tv and aperture ring Av at the tele end as
at the wide end.

I don't know if the aperture blades actually close during zooming (I
think not) so someone could argue that "the aperture really doesn't
change" but in fact, as the word aperture is commonly used in an
exposure and DOF connotation by photographers, the aperture actually
does change, even if it is only the "relative" aperture as stated in
F-stops rather than the physical diameter of the iris opening. 

In other words, selecting F8 at the aperture ring will give F11 at the
tele end of a variable aperture zoom, assuming the zoom is one which
the manufacturer says has a nominal one-stop variation such as the
very common f4-f5.6. 

I don't think angels dancing on the end of a pin can confuse the
difference between F8 and F11, but I'm sure someone will try to say
that F8 ~actually is~ F11 in *all* circumstances, and if I were only a
~good~ *professional* photographer I would know that by heart, or else
I should be out taking photos instead of testing variable aperture
zoom aperture behavior.

Here's how I did the test: I took out a couple of cameras, variable
aperture zooms, and fixed aperture zooms. Then I set the aperture to
F8 on every zoom. Then I set each lens to its widest setting. Then I
took a reading using center weight of a light, evenly illuminated,
wide wall, using each lens on each camera. Then I set each lens to its
longest setting, and repeated the tests.

In every case, the proper exposure for the fixed aperture zoom was the
same whether at wide or long end; the proper exposure for the variable
aperture lens was one stop different at the long end than at the wide
end.

So, in my small sample test, the variable aperture zoom varies the
effective aperture when zooming from wide to tele, despite the fact
that the desired aperture is fixed on the aperture ring.

And the PZ1p and MZ-7 actually display this difference in the
viewfinder. Selecting F8 at the aperture ring shows a value of F8 in
the viewfinder when zoomed to the wide end; when zoomed to the long
end, the value in the viewfinder gradually migrates to  F11. 

In other words, as I zoomed to the long end I could see the exposure
bar graph descending and the aperture readout changing from f8 to f9.5
and finally to f11.

Lenses tested: 

variable aperture zooms: F 70-210/4-5.6;  FA 28-105/4-5.6 (original
Power Zoom version); Vivitar 28-105/2.8-3.8 (manual focus); 

Fixed aperture zooms: F 24-50/4; 35-70/2.8 (old original AF for the
ME-F).

Cameras: PZ1p; MZ-7

I'd like someone with a constant aperture zoom that goes to 100mm or
longer try this same test, and let me know the results. And someone
else with a variable aperture zoom with a manufacturer's stated
nominal variation of more than one f-stop range (say,
100-500/f4.5-7.3) conduct a small test to see if the effective
aperture varies by the same amount as the stated range of variability
of the zoom.

In conclusion, if anyone thinks their variable aperture zoom fixed at
F8 on the aperture ring will shoot at F8 when zoomed to tele, they
should keep their camera on autopilot, or meter again and adjust
shutter speed downward at the tele end, or just leave the shutterspeed
alone and trust the wide exposure latitude of print film, lest they
suffer from underexposed negs.

--
John Mustarde
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