Speaking of zombies:

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Cheers,

Dave :-)

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No? Read more. Those who act without thinking are zombies as far as
>  I'm concerned. Now, there are some very intelligent and interesting
>  photographers on all of the forums. But the forum structure seems to
>  attract the mindless few as well. And it seems just a few zombies can
>  cause enough fear to generate mass hysteria.
>
>
> On May 6, 2008, at 9:06 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>  > I wouldn't call them zombies...
>  >
>  > Paul Stenquist wrote:
>  >> I suspect that back and front focus problems are almost always the
>  >> fault of the camera. I too have noticed the hysteria on the Pentax
>  >> forum. It's the result of some real problems that have now caused
>  >> paranoia and a search for problems where none exist. Some DA* 16-50
>  >> lenses had a manufacturing defect that caused an uneven focal plane.
>  >> In other words, the right side of the frame might be in focus, while
>  >> the left side was not. This was a lens problem, but it seems to have
>  >> been relatively rare and confined to early samples. However, a second
>  >> condition has complicated the situation. It seems that early K10D
>  >> cameras were not properly set up for USM, and the firmware update
>  >> didn't do the job. These cameras backfocused with  the USM lenses.
>  >> But it's apparently a simple fix, and it's not a lens problem.
>  >> However, the mindless zombies on some forums have blown all of this
>  >> way out of proportion. As you say, they test every lens, usually
>  >> handheld and in questionable conditions, and curse and complain. It's
>  >> an ugly situation, although brought on in part by some problems
>  >> Pentax created.
>  >> Paul
>  >> On May 6, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Andreas Pfotenhauer wrote:
>  >>
>  >>> hi,
>  >>>
>  >>> i recently followed a discussion in my favorite forum (bulletin
>  >>> board?)
>  >>> where a guy who had bought a DA 35/2.8 Limited was very disappointed
>  >>> because he found the *lens* to have severe back focus on his K10D
>  >>> while
>  >>> on his K20D it seemed to work just fine.
>  >>>
>  >>> As far as i understand it (with my limited optical knowledge), a
>  >>> lens
>  >>> can (and does) produce various forms ob optical aberrations, but if
>  >>> the
>  >>> "virtual image" is not directly on the sensor but in front or
>  >>> behind,
>  >>> then it's simply not properly focused, isn't it?! So the AF of the
>  >>> camera would be to blame for not acting accurate or, as second
>  >>> possibility, sensor, AF sensor and/or focusing screen are not
>  >>> leveled.
>  >>> I was asking if someone with a deeper understanding of the optics
>  >>> could
>  >>> confirm or denial this, but no one was able (or wanted) to, thats
>  >>> why
>  >>> I'm asking here now :-)
>  >>>
>  >>> The reason why I'm so interested in this is: a increasing number of
>  >>> ppl
>  >>> in that forum now test their newly bought lenses with a printed test
>  >>> chart under more or less undefined light conditions, of course they
>  >>> find
>  >>> some back- or front focus (of you look hard enough you surely find
>  >>> something to worry about, I'm 100% convinced), and then they send
>  >>> their
>  >>> lenses back, open new threads in the forum where they loudly
>  >>> complain
>  >>> about lens qualities, unsettle some more who start testing their
>  >>> lenses
>  >>> ... you get the drift.
>  >>>
>  >>> I would be deeply grateful if someone could shed a light on this, so
>  >>> this can be settled once and for all.
>  >>>
>  >>> Free beer is offered if that one will ever visit Frankfurt,
>  >>> Germany ;-)
>  >>>
>  >>> cheers
>  >>> Andreas
>  >>>
>  >>>
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