On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:44 PM, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> frank theriault wrote:
>  > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:34 PM, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  >>  Not that it actually WANTs to be, truth be known.
>  >>  I think they'd much rather be an off-shore principality. Or something.
>  >>  P.J.'s statement stands without correction! :-D
>  >
>  > What I meant is that since Quebec is a part of Canada, to say that
>  > "Canada" has a problem with a part of itself doesn't make a lot of
>  > sense.
>
>  Sure it does.
>  If Cleveland wanted to be a part of Canada instead of Ohio, or eveen
>  wanted to ba suburb of Toronto, it would be perfectly logical to say
>  Ohio has a real problem with Cleveland!
>  What's the difference?
>
>
>  > And, in fact, what's really been happening is a power struggle between
>  > the government of the Province of Quebec and Canada's Federal
>  > Government.
>
>  Right.
>  And Canada (the Feds) don't have a problem with Quebec? Please...
>

They don't. In fact the current Federal Government has the best
relationship with the provinical government in decades. The problems
would likely reoccur if a change in government happened though, the
Liberals are NOT HAPPY with Conservative Policy regarding Quebec,
especially since it's near-destroyed the Liberal lock on Quebec
Federalist votes.

>
>  > If one takes it that Quebec is the people that inhabit it (as opposed
>  > to whoever may governing from time to time) then it's shown
>  > consistently that it wants to remain in Canada.
>  >
>  > Back at the time of Confederation (1867) about 20 to 25% of the
>  > population did not want to join the Canadian Confederation.  The
>  > percentage of ~hardcore~ separatists in Quebec has remained remarkably
>  > consistent ever since.
>  >
>  > If the pot is sweetened by using wishy-washy concepts such as
>  > "sovreignty association" (touted to be an autonomous Quebec that
>  > shares such things as currency and armed forces with what's left of
>  > Canada - as if The Rest of Canada would go along with that) then
>  > supporters of change can swell up to close to 50%.  If the population
>  > is asked misleading questions that make it look like they're voting
>  > for negotiations rather than separation, the numbers swell.  I lived
>  > in Quebec during the first referendum, and many "yes" (ie:  yes to
>  > separation) voters that I knew didn't want separation, but only wanted
>  > to "send a message to Ottawa".  They honestly thought that that
>  > referendum was only a mandate to start sovreignty negotiations with
>  > Ottawa, nothing more.
>  >
>  > But, when asked the simple question, "Do you want Quebec to separate
>  > completely from Canada", the numbers have rarely varied over the
>  > years.
>
>  Still 25% to go, 75% would opt to stay?

Yep, At least that much.

>
>
>  > Quebec doesn't want to separate.  Never has.  Never will.
>  >
>  > cheers,
>  > frank
>
>  Do the MSM all know that?
>
>  keith
>

When does the MSM ever get anything right? Separatist troubles makes
for interesting news.

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M. Adam Maas
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