On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 20:18:12 -0500, Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> frank, do you realize that that post was self-contradicting? :)
> 
> mishka
> 
> On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 19:33:38 -0500, frank theriault
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But, I think what distinguishes the good old U.S. of A. from those
> > other examples you mention, is that, for one, it worked, and is still
> > in existance.
> ...

mishka,

Explain to me how my post was self-contradicting.  I mean, maybe it
was, but I don't see it.

I said that the USA worked.  That's true.  Said it's still in
existence.  That's true.

I didn't say that it worked well.  Or that it's still working. 

So, when I wondered toward the end of my post if democracy as
currently practiced (or not) in the US is anything near what the
framers of the Constitution envisioned, I was implicitely comparing
today with the late 16th Century.

I don't see a contradiction.  OTOH, I see your smiley, so maybe you
didn't really expect an answer from me...  <vbg>

cheers,
frank
> 
> > Whether what the US has now is anything close to the democracy that
> > was envisioned by the Founding Fathers is another question for those
> > with more knowledge than me (but my guess would be "no").
> >
> > I could say more, but (1) I don't want to get political (any more than
> > I have), and (2), dinner's ready <vbg>
> >
> > ciao,
> > knarf
> 
> 


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