Why do you continue to twist what I said around? I never said faster is
ALWAYS better.
I said in this case MOST and I stand by it. I know from years of
experience
of actually taking pictures that I could have benefitted from MORE film
speed way more
often than than the need for less. I would be a millonaire if I had a
nickel
for all the times I couldn't take the pictures I wanted at all due to
insufficent film speed.
JCO


-----Original Message-----
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 6:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??


If one wants to shoot with most any Leica rangefinder (and I say most
any because, off the top of my head, I don't recall if the M7 has a
higher top shutter speed, and if it does it's probably only a stop), the
shutter speed is limited to 1/1000 sec.  There is no alternative.  So
now what you're saying is that one should sell off a system they like
and in which a lot of time and money has been invested in order to shoot
an "arguably" better, faster film.

And why should I have to sell my early K mount cameras that I like so
well, or retire my MX or LX at a significant loss, in order to buy one
of these new cameras (that you yourself excoriate) in order to get
faster shutter speeds.  And let's talk about the common top shutter
speed on many medium format cameras that are limited to only 1/500
second.  I guess those systems would be obsolete as well.

Adding a ND filter is a PITA, and they do not add anything to the
shooting style of many photographers.  It's just another item to put on
/ take off that can be lost or damaged.  Plus, they don't always work
when one wants to use a color filter.  Many B&W shooters use a yellow
filter, so one may have to resort to filter stacking, which may preclude
the use of a lens hood ... and so on.

No, faster is not always better even if the films gave identical
results. 
As with everything, there's a tradeoff, and for some, the tradeoff to
use faster films is, if not unacceptable, certainly unappreciated.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 10/24/2004 1:05:28 PM
> Subject: RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??
>
> My contention was simply that a faster (but otherwise equal) speed 
> film is overall better for the advantages it has for MOST photography 
> and you can always get ND filters or a better spec shutter/camera if 
> you want to use very fast apertures in bright light.


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