I never said faster is ALWAYS better, I said
that the vast majority of the time it is.
There are far more photos taken with fstops smaller
than F2.8 or not in bright sun where the extra film speed
will improve the photo rather than the circumstances
you desribe (F2.8 or faster in bright sun )& using single multicoated ND
filter will hurt the photo.
JCO

-----Original Message-----
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 4:12 PM
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Subject: Re: B&W developers and Tri-x ??



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??


> you can always use the same aperture with
> a faster film, it just means a faster shutter
> speed which is almost always BETTER.

Really?
So lets say I am in bright sunlight with a K1000 (as an example). At ISO
400, I will be shooting somewhere around 1/250 second at f/16. Great if
I want lots of depth of field, but maybe I am shooting 
portraiture, which is one of the things I like to do.
In order to limit depth of field, I need to be around f/2.8, a full 5 
stops wider open.
I can get 2 of those stops with the shutter speed, but in order to 
get the other three, I have to put an ND filter on.
Now if I already have my standard B&W filter (light yellow), my 
requiremnt for neutral density has become 2 stops instead of three, 
but now I am stacking filters, which increases the possibility for 
flare, and image degradation from two more peices of glass and 4 more 
air surfaces.

This, plus my own experience,plus the very different grain structures 
of the two films in question makes my very skeptical of what you are 
saying.
What it boils down to is, as Shel said, two stops of speed is just 
that.
It is neither an improvement nor a regression.
It is just another factor in determining the correct film for the 
application.

William Robb 


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