Hi Ken,

As noted in subsequent posts, one needn't do one's own processing to know
how to adjust the exposure and compensate the development with conventional
B&W when working with a lab  You just tell them what you want.  Couldn't be
simpler.  I  Never said a word about using a lab to process film and make
prints making one "less of a photographer."   

Exposing for the subject is fine, as far as it goes, but it can be taken
further, especially in B&W photography.  If you, or anyone chooses not to
explore the full potential of the medium, fine, be satisfied with lower
quality results.  But you don't have to settle for lesser quality.  That
was, in part, my point. Why would you not want to adjust the process to
compensate for the exposure.  It's beyond my comprehension.  And what's the
title of the image got to do with making a decent photograph? 

You said it was a difficult exposure, and accepted the quality of the
image.  I only offered a simple, time-tested solution to better results. 
It's not difficult.  If you've not done it, try it.  It works.  Photography
is about light, and knowing how to capture it and manipulate it to make an
image.  If you don't know how to do *that*, then you are "less of a
photographer,"  regardless of who or where your film is processed and
printed.  I've got reams of shitty negatives because I hadn't learned how
to properly expose and develop film.  And I was at that time less of a
photographer than I am now.  And I am less of a photographer today than I
will be next week when I learn another technique and develop my skills some
more.  Being a photographer does not stop when the shutter is released.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Proper Exposure ( wasRe: Ricky's Kung Fu Pose)

> Hey Shel you again forgot that there are photographers out here that
don't want 
> to do their own processing.  Does that make them less of a photographer?
>
> My comments to Frank were based on getting as close to proper exposure as 
> possible in the camera with no process adjustments. Given the title of
the image, 
> I thought he choose to properly expose the subject and not the foreground
objects. 
>
> I've always tried to expose for the subject.
>
> Kenneth Waller


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