It sounds like my A 50/2.0 is at best a bad sample, and more likely
defective or damaged. There is no sign of damage on the body, and the
glass looks great. Maybe a previous owner opened it up and put it back
together wrong. My ignorant, wild guess is that maybe it just doesn't
focus right, and the gradual improvement I see up to f8 is really just
depth of field?

FWIW, my test shots were on a tripod, using the self-timer. No mirror
lockup, though, as I don't yet have a body that will do that.

"Unusable" was a poor choice of word on my part. "Unacceptable for my
purposes" would have been better, my purposes being mostly family
snapshots and landscapes. I love to see lots of sharp detail in both.
Other purposes = other requirements. Maybe I should try to sell my soft A
50/2.0 for lots of money as a specially customized soft portrait lens. 
;-)

Greg


> Hi, Boris,
>
> I have one, and use it often.  It's the only 50mm prime k-mount that I
> have,
> and I tend to throw it in my pocket when I'm walking around with a slow
> zoom
> on a body, just in case I need it for lower light shots.
>
> It's fine stopped down:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/03mar/filter.html
>
> I know that Greg didn't like his opened up.  I think the word he used was
> "unusable" or something like that.  My experience has been quite the
> opposite, especially since I use it wide open quite often:
>
> http://urbancaravan.com/latte2.jpg
>
> I've had that one blown up to 11x14, and the lip of the glass is still
> quite
> sharp.  And, that shot's not cropped at all, so the relatively sharp part
> of
> the lip on the right hand side is right at the edge of the neg.  That one
> was taken at f2.0, with the lens set to minimum focusing distance;  I just
> moved the body back and forth until I got the focus I wanted.
>
> I have another one taken at 2.0 that I think is quite acceptable (well, I
> have many, but most are only contacts, and you can't tell sharpness from
> those), but I don't want to post it now, as it's my next month's PUG
> entry.
> Maybe I'll send it to you off list, Boris - send it to others at risk of
> your personal safety!  <vbg>
>
> Now, maybe Greg and I have widely divergent standards (very possible), but
> I
> wonder if maybe he had a bad sample?  "Unusable" wide open just doesn't
> come
> close to my experience.
>
> These lenses are a dime a dozen.  Normally go for $20US or less on eBay.
> As
> someone already said, it's because there are so many of them out there,
> and,
> likely, because who wants a prime these days, right? <g>  I got mine for
> $20US - with an MV attached as a rear lens cap!  The MV is dead now, but I
> only wanted the package for the lens to put on my MX, so I'm happy!
>
> Mechanically, these are nice lenses, with a positive feel to the focus and
> aperture rings.  Not as buttery smooth as my m42 Taks, but what is? <g>
>
> I'd say that if you have a chance to pick one up at the "going" price, you
> can't go wrong.  Can't hurt to have a good performing cheap lens, can it?
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The
> pessimist
> fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Questions: M 50/2.0 - any good?
>>Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:45:24 +0300
>>
>>Hi!
>>
>>I am about to be enabled with the above lens (SMC M 50/2.0). It is
>>optically identical to A 50/2.0 and very similar (AFAICT) to 50/1.7. I
>>wonder how come Stan's site has nothing to say about it and except one
>> line
>>on Alex's site I couldn't find anything in regular PDML annals <g>...
>>
>>Especially of course I would be interested in opinions of people who have
>>(had) and/or use (used) this lens.
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>>Boris
>>
>
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