That's what I've been saying!!!

Bill

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From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 5:33 PM
Subject: RE: New Pentax DSLR next year


> The FOV would be the same for both 400mm lenses
> when used on the same 24x36 sensor. You seem to
> think that a 645 400mm lens is a different magnification
> from a 35mm 400mm lens when both are used on the
> same small 24x36 sensor. The magnification and FOV from
> BOTH 400mm lenses would be the same when using the same
> 24x36 sensor in both cases. Thus using the 400mm
> 645 lens makes no sense at all with a 24x36 sensor
> as compared to a 35mm 400mm lens which would be smaller,
> lighter, cheaper, and probably even sharper for other
> reasons to boot.
> JCO
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 5:13 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: New Pentax DSLR next year
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> The FOV would be the equivalent of a 600mm on a 24x36 sensor.
>
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 5:08 PM
> Subject: RE: New Pentax DSLR next year
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> > Your talking something different here.
> > The inital suggestion was that a 400mm 645
> > lens would  be much different than a 400mm 35mm format
> > lens ON THE SAME 24x36 DSLR CAMERA! Not true.
> > jco
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:57 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: New Pentax DSLR next year
> >
> >
> > Granted, but you would have less of the image circle visible on a 24x36
> > sensor than on 645 film.  IOW, if your main subject is two inches high,
it
> > will be two inches high on both formats, but the entire subject would be
> > visible on 645 film and less than 1/2 of it on 35mm (assuming landscape
> > orientation).
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:44 PM
> > Subject: RE: New Pentax DSLR next year
> >
> >
> > > 400mm is 400mm no matter what sensor
> > > or film format. a 400mm 645 lens wont look
> > > any different than a 400mm 35mm format lens on
> > > THE SAME 24x36 dslr. There would be no
> > > logical reason to use a 645 400m lens
> > > on a 24x36 dslr vs. a 35mm (24x36) format
> > > 400mm lens on a 24x36 dslr. There IS NOT
> > > an "apparent" optical difference if both
> > > lenses are the same 400mm FL!
> > >
> > > jco
> > >
> >
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bill D. Casselberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:47 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: New Pentax DSLR next year
> > >
> > >
> > > "J. C. O'Connell" wrote:
> > >
> > > > huh? a 400mm lens designed for 645 isnt going
> > > > to give any bigger image magnification than a
> > > > 400mm designed for 24x36 but it would be larger
> > > > and heavier and costlier. No way Jose!
> > >
> > > yeah, sure - by straight optical physics
> > >
> > > but the actual effect is a seemingly longer reach w/
> > > a given focal length on a smaller "film gate" exactly
> > > like everyone is so happy w/ when putting a tele onto
> > > their StarKist w/ its less than 24x36 sensor. The end
> > > result (granted, it is merely a *cropping factor* like
> > > on would get w/ an enlarger) is an apparently longer
> > > lens - period -  ... and that's all that matters.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >         ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >         Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast
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