It looks to me like Tom won the bet.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: *ist D delayed again


> This is a tricky one!
> 
> I was gonna stay out, but I am fascinated to see where this goes...
> 
> The *ist D was actually being sold on sept 1 - dealers were selling it,
> even if they could not supply it yet.  Of course I get your point
> though.  In your mind you seem to be saying that you were agreeing to a
> deal over whether the camera would be 'available to ship' on that date.
> 
> However looking at the archive, the 'legal' aspect of the bet (if you
> can call it legal) possibly supports both of you:
> 
> You are right, Tom did say "Ok, we'll say shipped to a dealer somewhere
> by 9/1/03." However you never replied to that email, and you in fact
> replied "Deal! Of course, now you've guaranteed that I have to stick
> around till then. Are you sure you wanted to do this?" to his later
> (arguably revised) offer of "Ok, the bet is that Pentax will have a
> digital slr for sale by 9/1/03.  "For sale" means it's listed on a major
> camera retailer's web site. If you win, you get my FA 100/3.5. If I win,
> I get your Program Plus.  Deal?" which is quite clear in what it
> defines.
> 
> There is no doubt in my mind that you have no claim on Tom's lens
> because it is your problem if you didn't realise what you were agreeing
> to after he spelled it out.  However, whether your contention that his
> definition of for sale is unreasonable has any merit is not for me to
> decide.  I guess ultimately it may depend on how charitable Tom feels...
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bruce Rubenstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: 13 September 2003 18:50
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: *ist D delayed again
> > 
> > 
> > There were no *ist D's for sale Sept. 1, 2003. Whatever 
> > verbiage was exchanged was an attempt to define the concept 
> > of "for sale". Pentax still hasen't moved it into the sales 
> > channel. It ain't soup yet and it didn't make the date.
> > 
> > BR
> > 
> > From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > No. I was planning to go through my sent mail to figure when 
> > things were said, but it's the busy time for me right now...
> > 
> > tv
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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