I am not a mechanical engineer who could confirm
your claims but what I meant was where does the
"ultrasonic" or "hypersonic" came from were it not
for the piezo-electric effect ? (You apply a certain
electric potential to a crystal and that crystal
vibrates. Conversely you apply pressure to that
crystal and you get a electrical current back.)

In normal motors, we know it, the movement came from
Faraday's discovery, a force results when an
electric current flows through a wire in a magnetic
field.

Maybe there is a third technology in common use,
cheap to manufacture, that I don't know of. But the
two I cited above are ways you can convert
electrical energy to mechanical movements.

And piezo-electric motors came in a huge variety
with different applications and different ways to
drive them. Some would be linear actuators requiring
a very high DC voltage like you said. In a typical
Canon USM lens no huge movement is needed. The ring
just vibrates at an ultrasonic frequency. Some other
ring or whatever would convert the vibration to
rotational movement. As for how exactly, I am no
Canon engineer... I don't recall the URL but I read
a site dismantling a Canon USM lens and the internal
design of the USM motor looks very simple and very
elegant.

Hype or not, it is some cool stuff. But I wonder why
a typical Pentax user would need that ? You wouldn't
expect a Pentax to do everything a Canon does,
exactly like I wouldn't expect a Canon to do
everything a Pentax does. Let me phrase it in some
other way. If Pentax has USM will they have an
excuse 10 years from now to drop the in-body
focusing motor altogether an leave all the current
AF lenses obsolete... in much the same way they are
now doing to the K mount of 1976 ?

If USM really matters to you you would have switched
to Canon more than 10 years ago. That said some
Canon users really needs USM when he/she is covering
some race event with a 500/4.5L lens... or when
doing stealth photography requiring quietness.
--
Bo-Ming Tong

----- Original Message -----
From: T Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:32 pm
Subject: Re: My *ist film review

> Ultrasonic motors are not neccessarily
piezo-electric. In fact I 
> do not
> think piezo-electric motors are ultasonic motors
unless the term 
> is being
> used for the crystal that converts DC into
ultrasonic AC. What I 
> know as a
> piezo-electric motor is something that has a very
very limited 
> movement as
> it is simply the deflection of a crystal element
converted to 
> mechanicalmovement. In fact, I thought (never
actually researched 
> it) that they were
> simply using a linear ultra-sonic (100kc or so)
motor to move a 
> few elements
> in the lens for focusing. From what you are saying
Ultra (or 
> Hyper) sonic is
> just advertising hype like Turbo has become.
> 
> Ciao,
> Graywolf
> http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bo-Ming Tong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 11:46 PM
> Subject: Re: My *ist film review
> 
> 
> > Most consumers don't know what is the
piezo-electric effect, on 
> which> USM, HSM, silent motor or whatever other
acronyms are based 
> anyway. But
> > no I don't think it makes sense, at least
hype-wise to put a
> > piezo-electric motor in the body, instead of a
normal one. The 
> advantage> of a piezo-electric motor are: 1, a lot
of torque with 
> little movement,
> > 2, save space in a lens because the motor can be
a big ring, and 
> 3, no
> > gears needed but direct transfer of motor
movement to focusing 
> helicoil,> for silent operation. Since you need an
AF shaft from 
> the body to drive
> > the AF lens anyway, what you really need are 1,
fast rotation 
> with less
> > emphasis on torque, 2, save space in a camera
body because the 
> camera> body is not cylindrical you would rather
be using a small 
> normal motor
> > instead of a big ring, and 3, the AF shaft
transfer motor movement
> > anyway so the quietness advantage is lost.
> >
> > But hey, who cares. I am happy with Pentax
bodies with or without
> > piezo-electric motors.
> >
> > T Rittenhouse wrote:
> > > How do you know they haven't gone to a hyper
(or ultra) sonic 
> motor. I
> can
> > > think of no reason why one could not be put in
the body. It 
> would give
> you
> > > 90% of the performance for 10% of the cost.
Pentax is just the 
> sort of
> > > company that would do that without hyping (pun
intended) it.
> > >
> > > Ciao,
> > > Graywolf
> > > http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
> >
> 
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