Well, Leonard,

You've hit the nail on the head.  He's innocent until proven guilty.  And the
State has to prove it's case against him "beyond a reasonable doubt" (not beyond
a shadow of a doubt - commone mistake <g>).  Hard to know what the guy did or
didn't do, or what the girl did or didn't agree to, from a brief newspaper
story.

As for the issue of the woman's consent, I actually carry around "consent forms"
with me, so that I can get any partner to sign a written consent ahead of time,
just in the case of such little problems.  Been carrying them around for about 5
years now.  Haven't had the opportunity to use one yet...   <vbg>

ciao,
frank

Leonard Paris wrote:

> This reminds me of a story I heard recently.  It goes like this:
>
> A girl goes to the police station and reports that she was raped.  The desk
> sergeant asks when it happened.  She says, "Two weeks ago".  The desk
> sergeant asks, "When did you realize that you had been violated?  She says,
> "When the check bounced".
>
> It seems a bit outrageous but, in some places, consensual sex can turn into
> rape if the woman (not the man) decides she didn't want to do it, even days
> after she consented.  Bob Shell should not have to prove that he "didn't
> help her get there".  The state needs to prove that he did, beyond the
> shadow of doubt.
>
> Len
> ---
>

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