No offense taken. We're all friends here, and adults. Well, except for one
or two people I won't name. <g>

--Mike


> Mike,
> 
> I'm, sorry, but I don't know anything about your education that wasn't
> admitted here.  If you go back
> a couple of generations in this thread you will find that Marnie stated
> that he had never heard
> of the rule of thirds or the Golden Mean, or Section as it is often
> referred to.  Marnie even went
> as far as to say the they never covered either of these "rules" in the
> courses that had to do with
> "doing" art, and they weren't in any drawing books.  In my experience both
> these statements are wrong.  If I remember correctly, and I went back and
> checked, you agreed with him, and said that "rules" of composition were
> dismissed with contempt.  I don't know how you can "do" art unless you
> understand something about composition, if the entire coverage on the
> subject you received in the course of
> getting an education resulting in an BFA, boils down to "there are no
> rules" you were cheated.
> I draw my conclusions from that.
> 
> I've seen your photography and read your writing, you're obviously good at
> what you do, it's not you or for that matter Marnie I have an issue
> with.  Yes, I did split an initiative there, I just, sometimes, perhaps
> of'times ignore them.
> 
> At 03:12 PM 12/31/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>>> That wasn't your point, your point was that you had never heard of it or
>>> were told about it or were taught it.  Apparently art schools are teaching
>>> a trade, they teach you how to paint and clean brushes how to weld, how to
>>> stretch canvas, how to develop film and print, they don't show you what
>>> others have done in the past and how they accomplished it, which is just as
>>> important or more so.
>> 
>> Peter,
>> On behalf of all art school graduates present and not, I resent this. How do
>> you know anything about the quality of my art school education? Did you
>> attend yourself? Have you studied art school curricula or observed classes?
>> Are you up on current didactic methodologies and educational strategies?
>> 
>> And would you care to match your knowledge of "what others have done in the
>> past" in the field of photography against mine? I have a nice little
>> photography quiz I've developed for hotshots like you, so be careful how you
>> answer this.
>> 
>> I'll warrant that I was prepared as well for my field as well as you were
>> prepared for yours. There is a lot that can be criticized in education in
>> every field, and certain fields, like art, lend themselves less well to
>> formal education than certain others. But that's no excuse to dismiss the
>> whole endeavor and insult those who undertook it.
>> 
>> Of course, in your next paragraph, you also dismiss most of the art of the
>> past century, so I guess I see where you're coming from. <g>
>> 
>> --Mike
> 
> Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
>    Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.  --Groucho Marx

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