In a message dated 1/25/01 10:38:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Please leave me out of your "we" category, for there have been many times 
that I've made a photograph without looking through the viewfinder, or with 
very little thought to the actual composition.  >>

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
> You must now find a better word for what we do, if not "compose." We *never*
> deliberately point the camera at something and just shoot. We always look 
>thought the viewfinder, if for no other reason than to see what's there. 
 
Shel, why are you personalizing a discussion of "composition of images," 
specifically, *how* "we" (photographers) compose images? Once so 
personalized, as opposed to discussing Mike's point or mine, the conversation 
becomes filled with anecdotes, reflecting "you" (Shel) as opposed to the "we" 
context you deny exists.   

Can you be objective regarding Mike's observation and the operative core of 
my statement, that is: wanting to discuss how Mike saw composing and my 
questioning his use of the word compose? Can you take his side or mine 
without injecting yourself in the conversation? 
You've already said things which might start a flame war (if I decided to 
engage). I won't. But neither will I go into a point for point refutation of 
your "style" vis-a-vis what Mike said and my suggestion that we should use 
another word. You see, I don't disagree with what Mike said, just the word.  

Can you address the "we" style of shooting without injecting your *personal* 
style or  opinion?  In almost every discussion, the person who objectifies, 
or personalizes the topic, loses, as you have, the essence of the topic and 
subsequent statements. 
Further Shel, personalized shooting details are anecdotes. 

I see you as being argumentative just to make a point about "your" style, 
itself a factor in "your" life and no other, anecdotes that fail to address 
either Mike's position or mine.

I'll not engage you point for point about your "style." 

It is "your" style, after all.
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