Thanks Dhruv,

Those comments should be solved now in v20 submitted.

For (4), I’ll discuss further with Ketan and we can always update section 6.5 
(and similar section in IDR draft) when we will have conclusion on any better 
proposal.

Regards,
Samuel

From: Dhruv Dhody <d...@dhruvdhody.com>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 12:52 PM
To: Samuel Sidor (ssidor) <ssi...@cisco.com>
Cc: pce@ietf.org; Roman Danyliw <r...@cert.org>
Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-19.txt

Thanks Samuel.

Some minor comments -

(1) Change 'and' to 'or' in "SR Policy LSP: An LSP set up using Path Setup Type 
1 (Segment Routing) and 3 (SRv6)."
(2) Manageability consideration section is incomplete, use the full template as 
per 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-manageability-requirements-11#section-2.2
(3) Section 8, this comment git missed -> "Also, in the list of references, you 
should also add RFC 9603 (PCEP-SRv6) and RFC 8697 (Association).   "
(4) Regarding your concern about section 6.5, let's post this update and I can 
parallely start a thread with Ketan on how to improve the situation.

Thanks!
Dhruv

On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 12:07 AM Samuel Sidor (ssidor) 
<ssi...@cisco.com<mailto:ssi...@cisco.com>> wrote:
Thanks a lot, Dhruv.

For “SR Policy LSP” – I rather expanded statement in Introduction to describe 
LSPs with PST SR and SRv6 and defined “SR Policy LSP” in same way into 
terminology, so update in section 5.5 is not needed. That way the L-flag 
capability can be potentially used even for PCEP peers, which does not support 
SRPA.

For including both BGP-LS and PCEP protocol origins into section 6.5 – I added 
them, but it is bit more difficult to explain now which codepoints are supposed 
to be used in PCEP (since not all of them are duplicated, e.g. those dedicate 
for private use) – see section 4.2.2.

Attaching updated version of the document. I can submit it tomorrow if you and 
other WG members are fine with those updates.

Thanks,
Samuel

From: Dhruv Dhody <d...@dhruvdhody.com<mailto:d...@dhruvdhody.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2025 12:10 PM
To: Samuel Sidor (ssidor) <ssi...@cisco.com<mailto:ssi...@cisco.com>>
Cc: pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>; Roman Danyliw 
<r...@cert.org<mailto:r...@cert.org>>
Subject: Re: [Pce] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-19.txt

Hi Samuel,

Thanks for taking over the editor's pen for this I-D.

Some minor comments -

(1) This text in the introduction -
OLD:
This document updates [RFC8231] by modifying Section 5.8.2 to make it optional 
for SR Policy LSPs, allowing a PCC to delegate an SR Policy LSP by sending a 
PCRpt without the preliminary PCReq and PCRep messages, with aim of reducing 
PCEP message exchanges and simplifying implementation.
NEW:
This document updates Section 5.8.2 of [RFC8231], making the PCReq message 
optional for SR Policy LSPs, allowing a PCC to delegate an SR Policy LSP by 
sending a PCRpt without the preliminary PCReq and PCRep messages, with the aim 
of reducing the PCEP message exchanges and simplifying implementation.
END

Also I think we need to clearly state what we mean by "SR Policy LSP". A simple 
definition would be any LSP i.e. part of SRPA, but if you do that also update 
the last sentence in section 3.5 -- "The above applies only to SR Policy LSPs 
and does not affect other LSP types...".

(2) Please add a new subsection in the IANA consideration for the SR Policy 
Capability TLV flag field.

This document requests IANA to maintain a new registry under the "Path 
Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) Numbers" registry group. The new registry 
is called "SRPOLICY-CAPABILITY TLV Flag Field". New values are to be assigned 
by "IETF Review" [RFC8126]. Each bit should be tracked with the following 
qualities.

Bit (counting from bit 0 as the most significant bit).
Description.
Reference.

<add the table, and make sure bit 28 is marked as unassigned to align with 
figure 6>

(3) Update section 6.7 and 6.8 to say "IETF review" instead of "Standards 
Action" for the PCEP registry. For section 6.6, standards action is aligned to 
what IDR decided under the "Segment Routing" registry group. Also, please drop 
the word "drop" in the section title for both 6.7 and 6.8.

(4) For table in section 6.5, use the table from 
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-sr-policy-10.html#section-8.4
 that includes both PCEP and BGP values. You can also highlight in text that 
the value used by PCEP is different from BGP.

(5) Section 8, please add -

"As per [RFC8231], it is RECOMMENDED that these PCEP extensions can only be 
activated on authenticated and encrypted sessions across PCEs and PCCs 
belonging to the same administrative authority, using Transport Layer Security 
(TLS) [RFC8253] as per the recommendations and best current practices in 
[RFC9325].";

Also, in the list of references, you should also add RFC 9603 (PCEP-SRv6) and 
RFC 8697 (Association).

(6) Section 5.4, move the reserved description at the bottom, the current 
placement is incorrect.

(7) Section 5.3, add that the TLV is carried in the LSP object.

(8) Please add the Manageability consideration section. Sorry I missed that 
earlier.

Thanks!
Dhruv




On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 3:22 AM 
<internet-dra...@ietf.org<mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org>> wrote:
Internet-Draft draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-19.txt is now
available. It is a work item of the Path Computation Element (PCE) WG of the
IETF.

   Title:   Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) Extensions 
for Segment Routing (SR) Policy Candidate Paths
   Authors: Mike Koldychev
            Siva Sivabalan
            Samuel Sidor
            Colby Barth
            Shuping Peng
            Hooman Bidgoli
   Name:    draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-19.txt
   Pages:   28
   Dates:   2025-01-14

Abstract:

   Segment Routing (SR) allows a node to steer a packet flow along any
   path.  SR Policy is an ordered list of segments (i.e., instructions)
   that represent a source-routed policy.  Packet flows are steered into
   an SR Policy on a node where it is instantiated called a headend
   node.  An SR Policy is made of one or more candidate paths.

   This document specifies the Path Computation Element Communication
   Protocol (PCEP) extension to signal candidate paths of the SR Policy.
   Additionally, this document updates RFC 8231 to allow stateful bring
   up of an SR Label Switched Path (LSP), without using the path
   computation request and reply messages.  This document is applicable
   to both Segment Routing over MPLS (SR-MPLS) and Segment Routing over
   IPv6 (SRv6).

The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp/

There is also an HTMLized version available at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-19

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-19

Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
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Internet-Draft draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-20.txt is now
available. It is a work item of the Path Computation Element (PCE) WG of the
IETF.

   Title:   Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) Extensions 
for Segment Routing (SR) Policy Candidate Paths
   Authors: Mike Koldychev
            Siva Sivabalan
            Samuel Sidor
            Colby Barth
            Shuping Peng
            Hooman Bidgoli
   Name:    draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-20.txt
   Pages:   31
   Dates:   2025-01-20

Abstract:

   Segment Routing (SR) allows a node to steer a packet flow along any
   path.  SR Policy is an ordered list of segments (i.e., instructions)
   that represent a source-routed policy.  Packet flows are steered into
   an SR Policy on a node where it is instantiated called a headend
   node.  An SR Policy is made of one or more candidate paths.

   This document specifies the Path Computation Element Communication
   Protocol (PCEP) extension to signal candidate paths of the SR Policy.
   Additionally, this document updates RFC 8231 to allow stateful bring
   up of an SR Label Switched Path (LSP), without using the path
   computation request and reply messages.  This document is applicable
   to both Segment Routing over MPLS (SR-MPLS) and Segment Routing over
   IPv6 (SRv6).

The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp/

There is also an HTMLized version available at:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-20

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-policy-cp-20

Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
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