w/ [dc] in front.....

On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 1:55 AM Dhruv Dhody <d...@dhruvdhody.com> wrote:

> Hi Deb,
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 11:15 PM Deb Cooley via Datatracker <
> nore...@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>> Deb Cooley has entered the following ballot position for
>> draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-optional-10: No Objection
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>> COMMENT:
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>> Section 3.2.1:  It seems like the use of the R flag changes how the PCE
>> handles
>> the P flag.  I'm not sure SHOULD (or BCP14 language) is optimal in this
>> section.  Does the PCE try hard to respect the P flag, but if it can't,
>> then it
>> ignores it?  This sounds more like 'best effort'.  I can't tell if this
>> also
>> might apply to the case where the 'PCC SHOULD set the P flag by default'.
>> [note:  I'm well outside of my expertise area here, I'm just trying to
>> interpret what is here in a logical fashion.]
>>
>>
> Dhruv: Based on John's suggestion -
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/wkJu_i0F4z3sNLd5o2s9bEXP7LM/,
> the plan is to change it to MUST.
>

[dc]  ok.

>
>
>
>> Sections 3.2 and 3.3: Would a small table with P, R, and I flags against
>> PCC,
>> PCE, and maybe the various extensions/message types might help?
>>
>>
> Dhruv: I remember this being suggested but the Authors claimed that such
> nested logic for flags is quite common in PCEP RFCs.
>
> [dc] common in the RFCs, sure.  But clear and easy to implement
correctly?  IDK...

>
>
>> Section 4:  The last () is a bit puzzling.  It might need some
>> explanation.  Is
>> there something specific that is anticipated?  RFC8253 is old enough that
>> TLS1.3 wasn't published yet, but RFC 9325 obviously covers both TLS 1.2
>> and 1.3.
>>
>>
> Dhruv: As stated in the other thread.
>
[dc] see my comments in the other thread.

>
> "There are some details in Section 3.4 of RFC 8253 that might not be
> matching exactly to RFC 9325 - such as MUST for
> TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 in RFC 8253 where as RECOMMENDED in
> RFC 9325.
>
> And what you state is also true!"
>
> Thanks!
> Dhruv (as document shepherd)
>
>
>
>
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