Thanks a lot, Orie. The change submitted as part of version 12. If discussion with John will require even more changes (e.g. to drop/replace reference to [RFC2578]), then we can handle it separately.
Regards, Samuel From: Orie Steele <orie@transmute.industries> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2024 2:27 PM To: Samuel Sidor (ssidor) <ssi...@cisco.com> Cc: The IESG <i...@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-ven...@ietf.org; pce-cha...@ietf.org; pce@ietf.org; d...@dhruvdhody.com Subject: Re: Orie Steele's No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-vendor-10: (with COMMENT) The bolded text works for me. OS On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 3:18 AM Samuel Sidor (ssidor) <ssi...@cisco.com<mailto:ssi...@cisco.com>> wrote: Thanks Orie, What about expanding that statement to (bold part added): [RFC7470] defines the Enterprise Numbers allocated by IANA and managed through an IANA registry [RFC2578]. This document clarifies the Private Enterprise Numbers (PEN) as described in the IANA registry are same thing as Enterprise Numbers referred in this document and [RFC7470]. The registration procedures and the registry location are described by [RFC9371]. By the way, there is also similar comment from John in other mail thread (attached), where he is also pointing to RFC2578, so I’ll wait for conclusion on that part before submitting Regards, Samuel From: Orie Steele <orie@transmute.industries<mailto:orie@transmute.industries>> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2024 3:42 PM To: Samuel Sidor (ssidor) <ssi...@cisco.com<mailto:ssi...@cisco.com>> Cc: The IESG <i...@ietf.org<mailto:i...@ietf.org>>; draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-ven...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-ven...@ietf.org>; pce-cha...@ietf.org<mailto:pce-cha...@ietf.org>; pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>; d...@dhruvdhody.com<mailto:d...@dhruvdhody.com> Subject: Re: Orie Steele's No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-vendor-10: (with COMMENT) > This document clarifies the Private Enterprise Numbers (PEN) as described in > the IANA registry. > Different instances of the object MAY have different Enterprise Numbers. In order to clarify, I think you need to relate "Private Enterprise Numbers" to "Enterprise Numbers" and to the sentence: > The Vendor Information object is OPTIONAL in a PCRpt message. Multiple > instances of the object MAY be contained in a single PCRpt message. Different > instances of the object MAY have different Enterprise Numbers. Otherwise the reader does not know if "Private Enterprise Numbers" are "Enterprise Numbers", or why there are 2 references for them. Additional text seems needed to glue this together. OS On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 6:28 AM Samuel Sidor (ssidor) <ssi...@cisco.com<mailto:ssi...@cisco.com>> wrote: Hi Orie, Thanks for review and your comment. That statement was added based on comments received during draft WGLC (comment #3 from Boris): https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/h3LvVV7TBeHJjUWkwiUjDPek32Q/ Goal of that statement is just to add proper reference to registry with Enterprise Numbers, because it was hard to find it and clarify which RFC is describing them. I'm fine with moving it into document body (proposed draft version attached). Please let me know if such change will work for you. I can submit it then. Thanks a lot, Samuel -----Original Message----- From: Orie Steele via Datatracker <nore...@ietf.org<mailto:nore...@ietf.org>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2024 8:29 PM To: The IESG <i...@ietf.org<mailto:i...@ietf.org>> Cc: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-ven...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-ven...@ietf.org>; pce-cha...@ietf.org<mailto:pce-cha...@ietf.org>; pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>; d...@dhruvdhody.com<mailto:d...@dhruvdhody.com>; d...@dhruvdhody.com<mailto:d...@dhruvdhody.com> Subject: Orie Steele's No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-vendor-10: (with COMMENT) Orie Steele has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-vendor-10: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ for more information about how to handle DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-vendor/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ``` 5. IANA Considerations There are no IANA actions in this document, only a clarification. [RFC7470] defines the Enterprise Numbers allocated by IANA and managed through an IANA registry [RFC2578]. This document clarifies the Private Enterprise Numbers (PEN) as described in the IANA registry. The registration procedures and the registry location are described by [RFC9371]. ``` The only place where "Enterprise Numbers" occurs is: ``` The Vendor Information object is OPTIONAL in a PCRpt message. Multiple instances of the object MAY be contained in a single PCRpt message. Different instances of the object MAY have different Enterprise Numbers. ``` I am not sure what the purpose of the clarification in IANA Considerations is... Is the goal to explain that Vendor information can include "Enterprise Numbers" or "Private Enterprise Numbers (PEN)" as described in RFC2578 and RFC9371 respectively? Or to restrict Vendor information to only "Enterprise Numbers" as described in RFC2578? In either case, it would probably be better to do this in the body of the document and not as a comment in IANA Considerations. -- ORIE STEELE Chief Technology Officer www.transmute.industries<http://www.transmute.industries> [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xqtkj5psM1dDeDes_mjSsF3ylbEa5EMEQmnz3602cucAIhjLaHod-eVJq0E28BwrivrNSBMBc]<https://transmute.industries/> -- ORIE STEELE Chief Technology Officer www.transmute.industries<http://www.transmute.industries> [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xqtkj5psM1dDeDes_mjSsF3ylbEa5EMEQmnz3602cucAIhjLaHod-eVJq0E28BwrivrNSBMBc]<https://transmute.industries/>
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