Gunter Van de Velde has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-vendor-10: No Objection

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# Gunter Van de Velde, RTG AD, comments for
draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-vendor-10

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# in general i found the document is well written

#DETAILED COMMENTS
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18         A Stateful Path Computation Element (PCE) maintains information on
19         the current network state, including computed Label Switched Path
20         (LSPs), reserved resources within the network, and the pending path
21         computation requests.  This information may then be considered when
22         computing new traffic-engineered LSPs, and for any associated and
23         dependent LSPs, received from a Path Computation Client (PCC).

25         RFC 7470 defines a facility to carry vendor-specific information in
26         stateless PCE Communication Protocol (PCEP) messages.

28         This document extends this capability for the Stateful PCEP messages.

GV> What about following rewrite:

"
This document specifies extensions to the Path Computation Element
Communication Protocol (PCEP) that enable the inclusion of vendor-specific
information in stateful PCE operations. These extensions allow vendors to
incorporate proprietary data within PCEP messages, facilitating enhanced
network optimization and functionality in environments requiring
vendor-specific features. The extensions maintain compatibility with existing
PCEP implementations and promote interoperability across diverse network
deployments.

RFC 7470 defines a facility to carry vendor-specific information in stateless
PCE Communication Protocol (PCEP) messages. This document extends this
capability for the Stateful PCEP messages. "

119        The Vendor Information Object and the VENDOR-INFORMATION-TLV are also
120        valuable in the Stateful PCE model.  The VENDOR-INFORMATION-TLV can
121        be included within any of the new objects introduced in PCEP for
122        Stateful PCE as defined in [RFC7470].  This document extends stateful
123        PCEP messages to incorporate the Vendor Information Object.

GV> s/within any of the new objects/within any of the objects/

135        The message formats in this document are illustrated using Routing
136        Backus-Naur Form (RBNF) encoding, as specified in [RFC5511].  The use
137        of RBNF is illustrative only and may elide certain important details;
138        the normative specification of messages is found in the prose
139        description.  If there is any divergence between the RBNF and the
140        prose, the prose is considered authoritative.

GV> I got thrown off rails by the word "prose". I am not native english speaker
and had to look it up.

WHat i found was: A prose description is a narrative explanation written in
ordinary, continuous language using full sentences and paragraphs. It conveys
information in a clear and straightforward manner, without the use of technical
jargon, bullet points, or specialized formatting. In technical documents or
specifications, a prose description helps readers understand concepts,
features, or procedures by presenting them in an easily readable and
understandable form.

What confuses me is that RBNF is very different then prose. I think that the
section is correct, but does read rather unnatural.

160        The message formats in this document are specified using Routing
161        Backus-Naur Format (RBNF) encoding as specified in [RFC5511].

GV> RBNF is expanded, while it was defined earlier in the document

271     4.2.  Information and Data Models

273        The PCEP YANG module is specified in [I-D.ietf-pce-pcep-yang].  Any
274        standard YANG module will not include details of vendor-specific
275        information.

GV> I would assume that the container of the TLV could be specified, but not
the container content as that is vendor specific (aka proprietary). Assigning a
conainer name for the the vendor specific option could carry value from
alignment perspective

277     4.3.  Liveness Detection and Monitoring

279        Mechanisms defined in this document do not imply any new liveness
280        detection and monitoring requirements in addition to those already
281        listed in [RFC5440].

GV> I did not check the history of the creation of this text, but wonder what
this section has to do with the content. COuld it not just be removed and
reduce document size? I have similar observation with paragraph 4.4



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