Hi Ina,

Thanks for the feedback and proposal
I would like to propose those modifications :
“The end of synchronization marker is a PCRpt message with PLSP-ID equal to the 
reserved value 0 (see Section 7.3). In this case, the LSP Object SHOULD NOT 
include the SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME TLV, SHOULD include the LSP- IDENTIFIERS TLV 
with the special value of all zeroes. All the flags of the LSP Object MUST be 
set to 0. The PCRpt message MUST include an empty ERO as its intended path and 
SHOULD NOT include the optional RRO object for its actual path or any other 
object. If the PCC has no state to synchronize, it SHOULD only send the end of 
synchronization marker.”



It would be good to add a sentence in case of bad encoding of the EOS marker. 
This may be covered but it looks confusing to mix generic PCRpt with EOS  :

“The PCE does not send positive acknowledgements for properly received
   synchronization messages.  It MUST respond with a PCErr message with
   error-type 20 (LSP State Synchronization Error) and error-value 1
   (indicating an error in processing the PCRpt) (see Section 8.5) if it
   encounters a problem with the LSP State Report it received from the
   PCC and it MUST terminate the session.
“

Some error examples :

1)      PCRpt S=0 D=0  PLSP-ID 0 LSP-Object (LSP-ID 0.0.0.0) ERO empty RRO 
present

Need an error like : LSP State Synchronization Error, non authorized object in 
EOS


2)      PCRpt S=0 D=0 PLSP-ID 0 LSP-Object (LSP-ID 0.0.0.0) ERO empty BW=0

Need an error like : LSP State Synchronization Error, non authorized object in 
EOS



3)      PCRpt S=1 D=0 PLSP-ID 0 LSP-Object (LSP-ID 0.0.0.0) ERO empty

Need an error like : LSP State Synchronization Error, bad flags in EOS



4)      PCRpt S=0 D=1 PLSP-ID 0 LSP-Object (LSP-ID 0.0.0.0) ERO empty

Need an error like : LSP State Synchronization Error, bad flags in EOS


5)      PCRpt S=0 D=0 PLSP-ID 0 LSP-Object (LSP-ID 0.0.0.0) ERO non empty

Need an error like : LSP State Synchronization Error, bad ERO in EOS



6)      PCRpt S=0 D=0 PLSP-ID 0 LSP-Object (LSP-ID 0.0.1.1) ERO  empty

Need an error like : LSP State Synchronization Error, bad LSP ID in EOS


7)      PCRpt S=0 D=0 PLSP-ID 0 LSP-Object (LSP-ID 0.0.0.0)

Handled by Missing ERO in PCRpt which will apply to EOS as well

A generic error would also work but less precise : LSP State Synchronization 
Error, bad EOS encoding.


Best Regards,

Stephane


From: Ina Minei [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 20:15
To: LITKOWSKI Stephane OBS/OINIS
Cc: Robert Varga; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Pce] draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce : clarifying the End Of 
Synchronization marker

Stephane,

Thank you for the detailed feedback. How about the following text?

The end of synchronization marker is a PCRpt message with the SYNC Flag set to 
0 for an LSP Object with PLSP-ID equal to the reserved value 0 (see Section 
7.3). In this case, the LSP Object SHOULD NOT include the SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME 
TLV and SHOULD include the LSP- IDENTIFIERS TLV with the special value of all 
zeroes. The PCRpt message MUST include an empty ERO as its intended path and 
SHOULD NOT include the optional RRO object for its actual path. If the PCC has 
no state to synchronize, it SHOULD only send the end of synchronization marker.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 5:20 AM, 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for the feedback.

> The intent here is to use a minimal PCRpt message, hence we explicitly 
> exclude SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME TLV and RRO. ERO is kept empty for the same case.
> I think we have not precluded other TLVs from appearing in EOS to allow 
> future extensions.
> I do not think LSP-IDENTIFIERS TLV should be carried here, as it serves no 
> purpose and is not required -- section 7.3.1's MUST condition does not 
> trigger, as
> PLSP-ID=0 is a reserved value and does not identify an LSP.

Even if you think that LSP-ID should not be carried, it's not explicitly 
mentioned in the draft, so it's authorized.
Why not restricting EOS to the minimal case, and let potential future 
extensions to modify it ? To you forsee anycase that could require modification 
of EOS content ?

At least the text should use normative words.

Best Regards,

Stephane

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Varga [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 14:02
To: LITKOWSKI Stephane OBS/OINIS; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Pce] draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce : clarifying the End Of 
Synchronization marker
On 06/21/2016 05:18 PM, 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Doing some interop testing between two vendors we falled into 
> misinterpretation of the current text of the End Of Sync marker content.
>
> Here is the current text :
>
> "The end of synchronization marker is a PCRpt message with the SYNC
>    Flag set to 0 for an LSP Object with PLSP-ID equal to the reserved
>    value 0 (see Section 7.3).  The LSP Object does not include the
>    SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME TLV in this case, it will include an empty ERO as
>    its intended path and will not include the optional RRO object in the
>    path.  If the PCC has no state to synchronize, it will only send the
>    end of synchronization marker."
>
> The current text, IMO, has the following issues :
> - it uses non normative wording : "does not include", "will include" , "will 
> not include". How do we need to interpret it ? MUST, SHOULD, MAY ?
> - it does not precise if it can include or not some other objects : can it 
> include an LSP-Identifier object (with all fields to 0) ?

The intent here is to use a minimal PCRpt message, hence we explicitly exclude 
SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME TLV and RRO. ERO is kept empty for the same case.

I think we have not precluded other TLVs from appearing in EOS to allow future 
extensions.

I do not think LSP-IDENTIFIERS TLV should be carried here, as it serves no 
purpose and is not required -- section 7.3.1's MUST condition does not trigger, 
as PLSP-ID=0 is a reserved value and does not identify an LSP.

> It would be good to enhance the text to better describe the content of EOS.
>
> We suppose that in case there is an issue with the encoding of the EOS 
> marker, the following behavior will be applied, could you confirm ? 
> (typically bad encoding of EOS marker) :
> " The PCE does not send positive acknowledgements for properly received
>    synchronization messages.  It MUST respond with a PCErr message with
>    error-type 20 (LSP State Synchronization Error) and error-value 1
>    (indicating an error in processing the PCRpt) (see Section 8.5) if it
>    encounters a problem with the LSP State Report it received from the
>    PCC and it MUST terminate the session."

Yes. This would trigger, for example, for PLSP-ID=0 and non-empty ERO.

Bye,
Robert

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