Oscar,

yes - true, but there are also FCFS allocations, such a code point
allocation can be made for any document (also an individual draft).

/Loa

On 2014-09-18 13:12, OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS wrote:
Hi all,

    I fully agree with the procedure suggested by Adrian.

    @Fatai. I guess all drafts (stable or not), except those that have an
early allocation, will need to have a TBD value. A suggested value is
usually (mis)interpreted as ³this is the specified value, though not
official yet²

    Best Regards,

         Óscar

El 18/09/14 13:06, "Loa Andersson" <[email protected]> escribió:

Fatai,

I agree with you - I also don't think this is only for the PCE
working group but should be applicable to the entire rtg area.

/Loa

On 2014-09-18 10:53, Fatai Zhang wrote:
Hi,

Sorry, I should say (2b) and (4), :-)




Best Regards

Fatai


-----Original Message-----
From: Fatai Zhang
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:32 PM
To: '[email protected]'; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Pce] Preaching about code points in drafts

Hi Adrian,

I think the steps you proposed really make sense.

I have one comment for clarification on step (2a) and (4), did you mean
that it only needs to use "TBD" rather than the suggested values?

In addtion, for the new drafts (or non-existing drafts with clash), can
I re-order your steps as follows? :-)

1. Do not adopt any I-D as a working group draft if it specifies code
points.

2. In the future, when implementations of an I-D become advanced enough
to be close shipping or starting interop testing, use RFC 7120 to get
code points allocated.




Best Regards

Fatai


-----Original Message-----
From: Pce [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [Pce] Preaching about code points in drafts

PCE working group,

draft-ietf-pce-rfc7150bis is fixing a clash between an IANA allocation
for RFC
7150 and an unallocated code point documented in a working group
Internet-Draft
that had been picked up and used by multiple implementations.

Another clash has just been pointed out to me between RFC 7150 and
draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.

The specifying of unallocated values in PCE I-Ds has got to stop before
significant clashes happen in the field. Cease! Desist! It is not
necessary, and
there is a simple solution to get code points if you need them.

Steps to be followed:

1. Identify all I-Ds that state or recommend values for code points
(see below).

2. Decide whether the values shown are needed to support existing
implementations.
2a. If so, make an immediate request to the WG chairs for early
allocation of
the code points using the procedures of RFC 7120.
2b. If not, make an immediate revision of the I-D removing the specific
code
point values.

3. In the future, when implementations of an I-D become advanced enough
to be
close shipping or starting interop testing, use RFC 7120 to get code
points
allocated.

4. Do not adopt any I-D as a working group draft if it specifies code
points.

Current drafts

draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp specifies unallocated values
draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls suggests values
draft-ietf-pce-remote-initiated-gmpls-lsp specifies an unallocated value
draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce suggests multiple unallocated values
draft-ietf-pce-stateful-sync-optimizations specifies and suggests
multiple
unallocated values

Recently-expired drafts

draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions specifies multiple unallocated
values
draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext recommends multiple unallocated values


Thanks,
Adrian

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