I do the USB card for audio and onboard card for the screen reader thing, 
and it has served me very well, especially when playing different audio 
things through the USB card for example. as if a bit of audio I am playing 
is very loud, I don't get any issues with not being able to hear my 
screenreader over the loud audio, as all I do is either back the volume of 
the USB card off, or boost that of the onboard card. because I use a mixer 
desk, I can do this very easily.

Simon


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Paton" <j...@vi-ability.demon.co.uk>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: Possible Recommendations for a good USB sound card please


Hi Larry,

On this dell optiplex, there is a default sound card, which is a real tek..

Now here's the interesting thing.

The windows mixer, offers limited access to all the controls on the card.
Further, these controls can be accessed, using an app called "dell audio." 
This opens up all the card's controls.  It is not accessible by three screen 
readers, but I suspect that screen mignification users may have a little 
more opportunity.

Next, the version of drivers, either provided by Dell, or Real Tek.  Certain
drivers, do nott offer the range of controls in the default installation, 
but
also these drivers leave the card in a flatter audio state, with no extra 
audio
effects turned on.

So what I am thinking, is, that it might be possible to turn off the effects
that you don't want, either by the driver file itself, or, access to the 
control pannel installed by the computer manufacturer.  I used dell in my 
example.

Next you could argue, hell, why waiste my time.  You could use the default 
card
for screen reader, then a second card for your audio.  I made the asumption 
that you want to do more than just replay high quality audio.  So in either 
case
Larry, creative audigie do a usb card, with controls onboard.  I tended to 
think of a PCI audigie card, forgetting about the usb offerings.


good luck, and good listening.

Joe




On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 09:36:21 -0600
Larry Higgins <larryhiggin...@comcast.net> wrote:

Joe,

The main problem I notice with this card, is that it tends to phase out 
centered voices on many stereo recordings. It also at times sounds as if it 
has an overactive audio gain setting. I just never know how it is going to 
react from song to song, or selection to selection. It just isn't a very 
sound environment IMHO, not like my old Audigy, which was both dependable, 
and at times, down right amazing as a reproducer of pure audio.

I'll admit that my demands are small, since I only use my sound card for 
listening to audio streams, and mp3 files, but very little in the way of 
actual recording. But when I had occasion to do some of that, the results 
were usually quite adiquit for my needs.




On 3/3/2016 7:24 AM, Joe Paton wrote:
> larry,
>
> exactly what issues do you have with the on-board realtek?
> If you mentioned it in a previous post, I missed it.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 06:16:33 -0600
> Larry Higgins <larryhiggin...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> It just says Realtek hi definition audio, and I have tried turning 
> enhancements off with no satisfaction, and no new drivers available 
> according to my updating facility for the card in the properties in the 
> control panel.
>
> If you are referring to something besides enhancements when you refer to 
> excelleration then I can't find any such setting anywhere on my system.
>    Turning off such excelleration was an option with my XP Computer, but 
> doesn't seem to be the case with this one .
>
> On 3/3/2016 3:53 AM, Isaac wrote:
>> what is your onboard card, might need new drivers or excelleration > 
>> turned off
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Higgins" > 
>> <larryhiggin...@comcast.net>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 3:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: Possible Recommendations for a good USB sound card please
>>
>>
>>> Joe, thanks for your thoughtful and deliberate response. I did a >> 
>>> specific Google search yesterday for Audigy drivers for use with my >> 
>>> particular card and Windows 8.1, something I thought I did a while >> 
>>> ago, and came up with the particular set of drivers directly from >> 
>>> Creative Labs through a tech discussion group. I plan to have my >> 
>>> daughter remove and install the sound card to the Dell some time this >> 
>>> week, and give them a try. Hopefully the card will give me the >> 
>>> performance hoped for, or at least remembered by me. It sure has to >> 
>>> beat the on board contraption I am using now. If not, then I guess >> 
>>> the search is on again <smile>. And if everything works out well, >> 
>>> then I'll drop a short note to let the list know about it.
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> On 3/1/2016 11:07 AM, Joe Paton wrote:
>>>> Hi Larry,
>>>>
>>>> The stumbling block may be the requirement for accessible software >>> 
>>>> along with
>>>> the device.
>>>>
>>>> I am running a Roland Duo Capture external usb card here. It's easy >>> 
>>>> to set up,
>>>> it works with the windows mixer, so you don't need preparietory >>> 
>>>> software. There are hard controls on the front pannel, 2 quarter >>> 
>>>> inch jack sockets, with XLR
>>>> capability.
>>>>
>>>> This takes a stereo feed from my mixer, but it might not have enough 
>>>>  >>> inputs for
>>>> you I don't know.
>>>>
>>>> A Nice card though.
>>>>
>>>> then there is
>>>> Focusrite's Scarlett range which provides a choice of USB audio >>> 
>>>> interfaces to
>>>> cater for any scenario.
>>>>
>>>> You might need to talk to a local dealer about these, but the >>> 
>>>> advantage is that
>>>> they have good Mic pre-amps, plus line-in sockets.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry this is so sketchy.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 09:44:20 -0600
>>>> Larry Higgins <larryhiggin...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Listers,
>>>>
>>>> I guess that subject line kinda says most of it, but just some >>> 
>>>> clarification.
>>>>
>>>> I am looking for some suggestions for a reasonably priced USB sound >>> 
>>>> card without any game audio gimmickry like what I am experiencing >>> 
>>>> with my Realtek card on my Dell, but a pure audio presentation.
>>>>
>>>> At present, and most likely for the foreseeable future, I will >>> 
>>>> continue to be using an analog stereo system, so don't need to pay >>> 
>>>> particular attention to HDMI, or anything related to that.
>>>>
>>>> Would like to have a card with all the appropriate line inputs and >>> 
>>>> outputs, and with the quality of an audigy, or maybe even better, if 
>>>>  >>> that is indeed possible for a good price. And just as a bonus, I 
>>>>  >>> would like to be able to access the software that comes with it >>> 
>>>> using Window-Eyes.
>>>>
>>>> The only reason I am asking about a USB card is because I don't want 
>>>>  >>> to have to install a regular card. However, if my best bet is to 
>>>>  >>> just forget USB in favor of some real quality, I would be willing 
>>>> to >>> do so.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, I am     primarily acquainted      with Creative Lab >>> 
>>>> cards, but any other reputable brand would be acceptable.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any input,
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>


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