Ah you're funny Dain. I know some could go oooooooo, harsh. But I sind it funny. Not as mad funny as the last thing what ever it was, but funny none the less. Ah you crack me up man.
-----Original Message----- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 5:02 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound My only other advice is as follows. When you buy your Surround-Sound, also buy the biggest case of beer you can find, invite guests around, get them all drunk and then you'll all enjoy what comes out of the speakers no matter the quality, no matter the material <smile>. On 27 May 2014, at 6:10 pm, Gary Wood <k8...@att.net> wrote: > I go to a movie every week, because the theater I go to has audio described movies. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kaufman" > <tomca...@comcast.net> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:33 AM > Subject: RE: listen to music in surround sound > > >> Believe it or not, I can't remember the last time I went to a movie >> theater to see a movie! >> Tom Kaufman >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >> Dane Trethowan >> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:10 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound >> >> I'd be quite surprised if you've never heard surround-sound before, >> I'm sure you've been to a movie theatre? >> >> >> On 27 May 2014, at 1:06 pm, Tom Kaufman <tomca...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> I must confess that I've never to this day heard surround-sound; in >>> some ways, I'd like to hear what it sounds like; aw but then I'd >>> probably want >> it >>> and it's just not practical in this house! It might be that someday >>> I'll investigate getting a sound bar for the TV in the living room; >>> that should help some as it's _got_ to sound better than the sound I >>> get from the TV now; not that it's absolutely terrible or anything >>> like that; my major complaint is that the sound tends to make the >>> television vibrate; that's annoying! >>> Tom Kaufman >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>> Dane Trethowan >>> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:43 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound >>> >>> Even so, music for the most part is not recorded to take advantage >>> of the concert hall effect, even on our classical stations here its >>> just recorded in plain old fashioned stereo and I ought to know <smile>. >>> >>> >>> On 27 May 2014, at 12:38 pm, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, of course, the audio source is on the stage, which is in front >>>> of you. But your living-room does not come close to approximating >>>> the dimensions of even a small concert hall. So that's where the >>>> dsp and magic of multiple speakers comes in. I don't pretend to >>>> know how they do it. But I know that even my old ADS analog time >>>> delay system did wonderous things for lps of classical music. It >>>> came a lot closer to the concert hall experience than just a >>>> two-channel set up in my living-room. >>>> >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> On Tue, 27 May 2014 12:30:11 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>> >>>>> What you say about the concert hall is right however, in a concert >>>>> hall >>> the audio is usually in the front of you, that's where the stage is >>> as far as I'm away so that's where the audio usually comes from. >>>>> >>>>> The same applies when listening in stereo, the speakers are >>>>> usually in >>> front of you for good stereo listening. >>>>> >>>>> The old analogue Surround-Sound? I still have my original Denon >>>>> AVR2000 >>> which supported all the Quad modes for front left-right and rear >> left-right >>> but for the most part the recordings made were not true >>> surround-sound or quad back then, some sort of DSP was needed to >>> decode the source to >> generate >>> the effect. >>>>> >>>>> We've progressed to the point where each channel - in true >> Surround-Sound >>> or Quad mode - has its own path to each speaker which was unheard of >>> say >> 20 >>> years ago. >>>>> >>>>> If you look at the more expensive Surround-Sound receivers you may >>>>> even >>> see direct analogue connections for each channel, the cheaper >>> receivers >> use >>> the HDMI connection to decode each channel digitally. >>>>> >>>>> I have a whole heap of CD'S - SACD, Quad and Video Audio - which >>>>> make >>> full use of the direct channel paths, the Quad CD'S I did myself, I >> mastered >>> them from Quad Carts - the old 8 track cartridges, versions of them >>> came >> out >>> that used a track for each channel in the quad recording -. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 27 May 2014, at 12:21 pm, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I haven't had the ability to listen in surround sound for a long time. >>>>>> Indeed, most of my experience was with an analog system years >>>>>> ago, made by ADS. And it was awesome. I also had the Carver sonic >>>>>> holography unit, which was good, but not as good as the ads, >>>>>> which actually required two speakers in the rear. The thing is, >>>>>> if you like classical music, full orchestra etc, there is no way >>>>>> you get anything approaching a concert hall experience with two >>>>>> stereo speakers, unless there is some magic happening in the >>>>>> background, ala the Carver holography. I have been impressed with >>>>>> Polk Audio in the past and also with the Magna planar speakers, >>>>>> which I really wanted in the worst way. Talk about 3-dimensional >>>>>> sound! But the listening environment demanded by that set up is not one that your average guy or gal can manage. That's why I' >>>>>> m intrigued by sound bars and various digital signal processing >>>>>> techniques. I want to simulate the concert hall experience in my >>>>>> living-room. And 2 speakers will never do that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ********** >>>>> >>>>> Dane Trethowan >>>>> Skype: grtdane12 >>>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>>>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>>>> faceTime +61400494862 >>>>> Fax +61397437954 >>>>> Twitter: @grtdane >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ********** >>> >>> Dane Trethowan >>> Skype: grtdane12 >>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>> faceTime +61400494862 >>> Fax +61397437954 >>> Twitter: @grtdane >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ********** >> >> Dane Trethowan >> Skype: grtdane12 >> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >> Mobile: +61400494862 >> faceTime +61400494862 >> Fax +61397437954 >> Twitter: @grtdane >> >> >> >> > > ********** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane