What you're doing is pretty much the sort of thing a modern day DSP is capable of in a Surround-Sound system so try this when you get a moment.
Get one of those old time radio shows and play it on your Surround-Sound system but set the mode to "Mono Movie" or similar, try different modes and see what happens or - depending on your system - you can adjust the effect levels to your need. On 27 May 2014, at 1:35 pm, Gary Wood <k8...@att.net> wrote: > Well Tom, one thing I did, I collected old-time radio tapes for several years > during the 80's. I used a graphics equalizer at the time, and I created a > stereo effect by puttinng one voice on the left channel by raising the left > lever, and for the other person, I raised the right lever to give that > effect, and it amazed me when listening to it later, even though I knew what > I had done. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtd...@internode.on.net> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:21 PM > Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound > > > That's pretty much the case yes, > > > On 27 May 2014, at 12:10 pm, Tom Kaufman <tomca...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Okay...I'll jump in on this; please understand I don't claim to know a whole >> lot about it, but if one is listening to music in "surround sound" (and it >> wasn't originally produced that way) isn't this a little like trying to >> listen to music in stereo that wasn't recorded that way:? Believe me, I've >> heard music that was "re-enhanced" for stereo; for the most part, it just >> don't get it for me! I love stereo, but all too often, I've heard music >> that was, shall we say "re-channeled" (for lack of a better term) to make it >> _sound_ like it's in stereo; it just doesn't work! >> Tom Kaufman >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood >> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:03 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound >> >> To me, listening to music in surround sound doesn't sound simulated at all. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >> <grtd...@internode.on.net> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 6:58 PM >> Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound >> >> >> If you like listening to music through a surround-sound system with a DSP >> effect then fine! and you're underlining the point that an audiophile is >> making, you're listening to music in a way that wasn't normally intended for >> >> it to be listened to so the argument then goes that - because of the extra >> artificial effect applied by the DSP - you're not able to fully appreciate >> the purity of the music, quality of the music etc that you would otherwise >> experience from a better quality 2 channel system. >> >> There are exceptions to the rule of course and I'm talking here of quad >> recordings or SACD etc but again these are not very common and aren't in >> mainstream music recordings, you don't see Quad FM nowadays or you don't see >> >> SACD recordings in large numbers at your local record shops. >> >> >> On 27 May 2014, at 9:40 am, Gary Wood <k8...@att.net> wrote: >> >>> Well John, I also find music in surround sound preferable than just stereo >> >>> for the reasons you mentioned, for the enveloping quality of music done >>> that way. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gurd" <j.g...@ntlworld.com> >>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:16 PM >>> Subject: RE: listen to music in surround sound >>> >>> >>>> I often listen to music in surround sound effect for the sheer enveloping >>>> fun of it even though there can be a little loss in quality. I have a >>>> fairly >>>> old but very good home theatre set up with Bours & Wilkins media wall >>>> speakers and a Linn Sizmik subwoofer with an Arcam AV600 receiver. >>>> Although >>>> stereo sounds more dynamic and accurate I often listen to music in >>>> surround >>>> sound simulation because it does it so well and is kind of magical. A >>>> really >>>> good Blue ray movie is so involving I've sometimes turned audio >>>> description >>>> off to get the full effect. The only music recording I have in genuine >>>> 5.1 >>>> is a recently acquired Pure Audio remaster of the Genesis album Selling >>>> England by The Pound. It's wonderful. I can't understand why more great >>>> albums haven't been done this way. >>>> >>>> I've also got an old Logitec Z5500 5.1 speaker set attached to my PC and >>>> with that system the surround simulation is far preferable to normal >>>> stereo >>>> because otherwise there's no real depth to the music. >>>> >>>> To be honest, though, for convenience, most of the time I just stream >>>> audio >>>> from my PC or iPhone while I do other things. Incidentally, my pet hate >>>> at >>>> the moment is the way so many modern recordings have the volume >>>> compressed >>>> so that all the music is exactly the same level. I'm always trying to >>>> turn >>>> the music up to try to squeeze a bit more dynamic range out of it which >>>> of >>>> course doesn't really work. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary >>>> Wood >>>> Sent: 26 May 2014 16:19 >>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>> Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound >>>> >>>> I'm sure nobody. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:36 AM >>>> Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound >>>> >>>> >>>> And who has said that it wasn't? >>>> >>>> On 27 May 2014, at 12:35 am, Gary Wood <k8...@att.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That may be true, but it's still a matter of choice, I believe. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net> >>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 8:19 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The fact is - whether we like it or not - 99% of the recorded music on >>>>> the >>>> >>>>> Planet was never recorded for surround-sound systems, it was either >>>>> recorded in stereo or Mono. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 26 May 2014, at 11:17 pm, brian sackrider <n8...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to >>>>>> listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround >>>>>> sound >>>> >>>>>> that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound >>>>>> system >>>> >>>>>> it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround sound I >>>>>> liked the concert hall effect and all of the seperation and the >>>>>> acoostic >>>>>> effects. in my opinion that is the only to listen to music in full >>>>>> surround sound you just can't get that kind of sound from stereo >>>>>> speakers >>>> >>>>>> iI do like to hear good stereo speakers but there is no compearason to >>>>>> listening to music in surroundsound. >>>>>> On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>>>> You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, >>>>>>> you're >>>> >>>>>>> better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers >>>>>>> for >>>> >>>>>>> doing things like that and here's their point, for the cost of a >>>>>>> surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp and >>>>>>> speakers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood <k8...@att.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think >>>>>>>> audiophiles >>>> >>>>>>>> would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add >>>>>>>> more >>>> >>>>>>>> speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of >>>>>>>> quality. >>>> >>>>>>>> Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of >>>>>>>> equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, the equalizer made >>>>>>>> things sound distored, so I quit using it. Audiophiles don't like >>>>>>>> graphic equalizers. >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" >>>>>>>> <hamitcam...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. People >>>>>>>>> make fun >>>>>>>>> of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke, >>>>>>>>> and >>>> >>>>>>>>> hell, >>>>>>>>> I've even seen death threats. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>> Dane >>>>>>>>> Trethowan >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM >>>>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose >>>>>>>>> system or >>>>>>>>> product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's nice to say >>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>> products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that just isn't the >>>>>>>>> case. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good to >>>>>>>>> deal >>>>>>>>> with, or it is here at any rate. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own >>>>>>>>> home, >>>> >>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>> was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after the trial, >>>>>>>>> they >>>> >>>>>>>>> made >>>>>>>>> arrangements to pick the product up from me and I was given a refund >>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>> purchase price, no questions asked. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions >>>>>>>>> asked, no >>>>>>>>> hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood <k8...@att.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's >>>>>>>>>> worth >>>>>>>>>> it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Otten" >>>>>>>>>> <maryot...@comcast.net> >>>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Bose Soundlink 3 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I wonder if anybody on list owns this speaker from Bose. It costs >>>>>>>>>>> $300. >>>>>>>>>>> I saw one briefly last evening at the Verizon store, as I was >>>>>>>>>>> purchasing my new iPhone and was pretty impressed with the sound, >>>>>>>>>>> given the size of the box. I really haven't looked all that much >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> to this sort of speaker. I have an older dock that works with the >>>>>>>>>>> older style iPhone connectors, and it really sounds pretty good, >>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>> my better half has sort of taken it over for use in his >>>>>>>>>>> class-room. >>>>>>>>>>> So I'd like to know from those who have experienced this >>>>>>>>>>> equipment, >>>>>>>>>>> what did you think, and are there other units you'd recommend as >>>>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>>>> competition? I like the size and the volume and depth of sound, >>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>> am not thrilled with the $300 price tag, naturally. >>>>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ********** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dane Trethowan >>>>>>>>> Skype: grtdane12 >>>>>>>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>>>>>>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>>>>>>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>>>>>>>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>>>>>>>> faceTime +61400494862 >>>>>>>>> Fax +61397437954 >>>>>>>>> Twitter: @grtdane >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ********** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dane Trethowan >>>>>>> Skype: grtdane12 >>>>>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>>>>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>>>>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>>>>>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>>>>>> faceTime +61400494862 >>>>>>> Fax +61397437954 >>>>>>> Twitter: @grtdane >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ********** >>>>> >>>>> Dane Trethowan >>>>> Skype: grtdane12 >>>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>>>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>>>> faceTime +61400494862 >>>>> Fax +61397437954 >>>>> Twitter: @grtdane >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ********** >>>> >>>> Dane Trethowan >>>> Skype: grtdane12 >>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>>> faceTime +61400494862 >>>> Fax +61397437954 >>>> Twitter: @grtdane >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ********** >> >> Dane Trethowan >> Skype: grtdane12 >> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >> Mobile: +61400494862 >> faceTime +61400494862 >> Fax +61397437954 >> Twitter: @grtdane >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ********** > > Dane Trethowan > Skype: grtdane12 > Phone US (213) 438-9741 > Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 > Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 > Mobile: +61400494862 > faceTime +61400494862 > Fax +61397437954 > Twitter: @grtdane > > > > > ********** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
