hi!
Actually i can tell that i have used foobar2000 since 2004 but haven't
really learned how to customize all the featurs yet.
I can however do what i want with it.
/A
Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-15 23:47:
Hi Tom. Please don't think I was criticizing you personally. Obviously
if you're happy with what you have than by all means...
Foobar is a customizable and easy-to-use program. It's not however,
for beginner since there have not been alot of podcast or scripts or
whatever to make newby's comfortable. Again I wasn't criticizing
anyone specifically.
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kaufman" <tomca...@comcast.net>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes
Hello Brett and list: I'm sure that Foobar is a fine program; all I
really was meaning to say was: at this time, I don't know that I have
a need for anything other than what I'm already using (Winamp) if I
used a program to create playlists and such (from what you are
saying) Foobar might be a better one than Winamp; it's something that
(now that my curiosity has been somewhat aroused) I might look at it,
just to see what it does!
Tom Kaufman
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brett Boyer" <bboyer...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes
Hey all. Tom I appreciate where you're coming from. However a few
years ago I got fed up with winamp adding more stuff that I didn't
need. It was becoming bulkier than I wanted and so I went snooping
around for other alternatives. I will give you one main advantage
foobar has over the competition. Multiple playlists. That's right
something you thought you didn't need or at least I thought I didn't
need until I realized how wonderful it was. With this tiny little
player that is as customizable as you can get. I can now have my
audio books, TV shows, music, and whatever all in the same window. I
don't have to keep opening new playlists and reloading files.
And one more great thing about Foobar, that I just rediscovered, is
tagging. Since my music library is a total mess. (I do mean a total
mess) I knew it was time to retag everything from album names to
genre (don't get me started on genres) Foobar has a beautiful
interface for tagging files and / or folders.
Maybe I should do a podcast on it because I'm so thrilled how great
it is. I've been looking for an idea for a podcast anyway. But
suffice it to say I think a lot of people are scared to go outside
the box and blind people more so than sighted folks.
Let's face it, if I didn't go outside the box I never would have
discovered programs like Foobar about 3 years ago.
I understand the fear of trying something new especially when screen
access software is picky and you never know what you're going to get.
I recently read an article on a program called Songsmith. It's one
of these program that can help you create music by making a few
selections and just singing in to your microphone. I found it,
downloaded, and couldn't do a thing with it. But at least I tried
and I'm still checking it out with all of the screen readers I have.
(btw no luck so far)
Ok sorry for the long post I usually don't have this much to say,
but James had such a great message I felt empowered!!!
thanks
bb
Brett Boyer
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http://brettboyer.voices.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kaufman" <tomca...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes
Okay; Foobar, Foover. whatever; all I was attempting to ask is:
what makes it a better "player (audio player, media player..whatever!
Tom Kaufman
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Scholes"
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes
Your attention to detail (i.e. spelling Foobar with a V) would
suggest that you have not considered the very real possibility
that Foobar may contain features that, up-to-now, you have not
considered you even needed, nor have you considered that
Foobar2000 is an audio player, not a media player. The emphasis is
on audio playback, and this appeals to some folks.
I'll admit that I switched to Foobar2000 from WinAmp about 2 and a
half years ago, and haven't looked back. But I'm not here to
advocate for its usage, nor to outline in great detail what it is
about Foobar that makes me prefer it over WinAmp. That is for you
to decide, and until you have tried the product (which is free and
does not conflict with an existing WinAmp installation) or at the
very least studied the list of features and extra plug-ins
available, you are not qualified to take the narrow-minded view
that "if something ain't broke, don't fix it". There is *always*
room for improvement, and that improvement shouldn't have to stand
out and hit you in the face for you to notice it. If everybody
took such a stilted view of development, whether it be
technological, political, economical or otherwise, the world would
go nowhere.
If you do not wish to try other products, as you feel your current
set-up is adequate for your needs, that is absolutely fine. I am
not adverse to people sitting back and leaving others to test new
software or make change. There are legitimate reasons, such as
lack of interest, knowledge and/or skill that may make you
incapable, or unwilling to locate, use and assess new software.
But asking others what appeals to them about other products is
pointless. If I were to tell you that Foobar has a very handy
plug-in available for previewing sections of songs, and that it
comes in very useful when broadcasting internet radio shows, would
that apply to you? If I said that it uses less RAM than WinAmp,
would you care? For all I know, your computer might be a
powerhouse of a machine with an amount of memory that makes high
RAM usage insignificant.
I should also note that Foobar is extremely popular, and that
popularity is increasing constantly. This somewhat removes the
notion that you either look for new software or you don't; you can
be alerted to the existence of a new software application simply
by reading status updates on a social networking website,
someone's e-mail signature, an article on a blog related to a
topic you were actually investigating, etc. I didn't find Foobar
through research into new media players; I found it through a
software recommendation.
Previously, Tom Kaufman said:
Christopher and list: Amen! If it ain't broke, don't fix it! I've
never tried Foover (I've no doubt that it's probably a good
player) but I so far have had good luck with Winamp, so why would
I want to change? What does Foover do that Winamp doesn't? I
guess what I'm saying is: if I felt the need to go with a
different player, I'd probably give this "Foover a try. But
currently, Winamp seems to work okay for me!
Tom Kaufman
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain"
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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes
Well, I totally disagree with this statement. Maybe I hang
around with
particularly cautious sighted people or particularly adventurous
blind
people, but I don't find blind computer users any more reluctant
to try
new applications than sighted people. IMHO, this is a dangerous
stereotype, maybe caused by spending more time on blindness related
mailing lists than mailing lists frequented by the general public.
That being said, I also don't blame anyone who is happy with what
they're using and isn't looking to change. "If it isn't broken,
don't
fix it." I used to spend all of my time looking for a better media
player, but then I decided I'd rather spend my time listening to
music
than playing around with the various accessibility foibles of the
different media players out there.
On 15/04/11 03:48, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi!
Yes i totally agree with you.
Sometimes i think blind people are more afraid of security
risks and
taking risks at all with their computers.
Personally i have tried several programs for windows on this
machine
with mixed results.
Some programs work some don't.
However foobar is the greatest player i've tried.
/A
Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-14 21:15:
By now you would think somebody would have done something. I
think
it's because people who are blind stick to there one or two
programs
and don't like to explore and try hnew things. If they only
knew that
foobar is one of the best media players out there.
I'm sure it doesn't need to be a very detailed set file since
the only
thing W E won't read is the main list view everything else is
accessible already.
,sigh.
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Anders Holmberg"
<and...@pipkrokodil.se>
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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes
Hi!
Its a shame its not working with we.
I have had the same problems as you.
Suggest that you tell the devs of we to make a set file for it.
Hal and nvda also works great with it.
/A
Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-13 23:04:
Hi. I'm trying to use foobar with window-eyes and for some
strange
reason it is not working. Anyone have any ideas on how to
make this
wonderful audio program work with WE?
Jfw seems okay with it but I don't own a current version
that works
with windows 7. The only thing that doesn't work is the main
playlist listview. Any techys out there got ani idea on what
I can
do to make this happen?
TIA
bb
Brett Boyer
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