I didn't have any trouble switching from one to the other, I suppose this was 
because i took to the Mac with an Open mind, yep a new system but no! I'm not 
on my own.  Plenty of great tools and resources to help you including the 
built-in reference material and interactive tutorials for Voiceover, the numpad 
and keyboard commander which are customisable etc.


On 19/04/2010, at 5:04 PM, Gary Wood wrote:

> Everything about Mac sounds good, especially with the Voiceover!  But if I go 
> that way, I'll have to learn a new system all over again!  Does Mac seem 
> easier or harder to learn than Windows?  I know that it'll be different.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "hank smith" <hanksmi...@gmail.com>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:14 AM
> Subject: Re: A little Mac talk and audio Was Audio Hijack Pro
> 
> 
>> not only that but I have yet to find a mac screen reader radio automation 
>> software fore that platform
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: A little Mac talk and audio Was Audio Hijack Pro
>> 
>> 
>>> Flip For Mac is the replacement for Windows Media Play for the Mac, 
>>> Microsoft recommend it for all the most up-to-date WMA audio/video 
>>> features, its a third party product - in other words not developped by 
>>> Microsoft and is updated regularly.
>>> 
>>> The player - which integrates with Quicktime - is available free, other 
>>> tools such as Video capturing etc you have to pay for but the prices are 
>>> fairly reasonable.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18/04/2010, at 10:03 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>>> 
>>>> High Dain,
>>>> I done this in 2007.
>>>> I think Microsoft still has it upon their website, but you'll have to do 
>>>> some digging in order to find it.
>>>> You said something about Flip working well with Quick Time.
>>>> What is Flip?
>>>> John.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:31 PM
>>>> Subject: A little Mac talk and audio Was Audio Hijack Pro
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Well I don't know how you're going to go with Windows Media Player for 
>>>>> the Mac as - from what I understand - it was discontinued for the Mac 
>>>>> quite some time ago, you use Flip For Mac instead which integrates with 
>>>>> Quicktime.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 18/04/2010, at 4:49 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> High Hank,
>>>>>> I only keep track of the music that we play at the radio station.
>>>>>> If I hear something I like, I will either save it as a wave file and or 
>>>>>> a flack file and copy it to a flash drive just so that I can take it 
>>>>>> home with me.
>>>>>> My computer in my office, has Quick Time on it, which is more easier to 
>>>>>> use on a Mack then it is to use on a pc.
>>>>>> They don't know this, but I downloaded Windows Media Player for Macks 
>>>>>> and installed it on that computer.
>>>>>> But if you're asking about the computer in the control room, that one is 
>>>>>> running the Linux system.
>>>>>> But they're looking to switch that one out for a Mack system.
>>>>>> The reason for this is, coming by a screen reader that will work with 
>>>>>> the Linux system, is very costly.
>>>>>> So a system that already has a screen reader built in to it, is more 
>>>>>> cost efficient.
>>>>>> I don't know what they will be running on it yet, but I'll keep the list 
>>>>>> posted when I find out.
>>>>>> My best regards.
>>>>>> John.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "hank smith" <hanksmi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:54 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Audio Hijack Pro something I've just discovered
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> what software you using at radio station?
>>>>>>> I am in search fore radio station mac software fore my internet station
>>>>>>> Hank
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net>
>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:22 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Audio Hijack Pro something I've just discovered
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> High Dain,
>>>>>>>> Not here at the house.
>>>>>>>> But I have a Mack in my office at work.
>>>>>>>> I work for a loco radio station here in my home town.
>>>>>>>> I hope to have a Mack of my very own by my 38th birthday which is, a 
>>>>>>>> few months away.
>>>>>>>> John.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>>>>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:17 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Audio Hijack Pro something I've just discovered
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Pardon my ignorance but do you have a Mac to try it on? This is Mac 
>>>>>>>>> software we're discussing here.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 17/04/2010, at 2:12 PM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> High Dain,
>>>>>>>>>> Thinks for the clarification!
>>>>>>>>>> When I get a chance, I'll try that.
>>>>>>>>>> If I run in to any trouble, I'll let you and everyone on this list 
>>>>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>>>>> My best regards.
>>>>>>>>>> John.
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>>>>>>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:46 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Audio Hijack Pro something I've just discovered
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, I'll do my best to explain things here.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Given that Audio Hijack Pro handles many sources then how you 
>>>>>>>>>>> adjust the level depends very much on what you're 
>>>>>>>>>>> hijacking/recording from, with Audio Hijack Pro, "Hijack" and 
>>>>>>>>>>> "Record" are 2 different operations. In order to "Record" you first 
>>>>>>>>>>> need to "Hijack" a source, you may just want to "Hijack" a source 
>>>>>>>>>>> rather than record it, when a source is Hijacked, you can redirect 
>>>>>>>>>>> its audio for example.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Some sources you can adjust the level by adjusting the volume 
>>>>>>>>>>> control of that source - say DVD Player -, others are "Fixed" level 
>>>>>>>>>>> sources but the point here is that Audio Hijack Pro is not an 
>>>>>>>>>>> editor, only a recorder so if further level adjustments or tweaking 
>>>>>>>>>>> is necessary then you "Edit" the recording which is placed in Audio 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hijack's "Recording Bin", various other operations are available 
>>>>>>>>>>> from there including the addition of effects, burning to CD and so 
>>>>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I hope this goes some way to explaining things and other Mac users 
>>>>>>>>>>> may have additional notes to add.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/04/2010, at 12:43 PM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> High Dain,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I got that part, what I'm talking about, are their controls.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If Voiceover doesn't work with those, how do you make adjustments, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and how do you know you're making the right adjustments?
>>>>>>>>>>>> John.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:28 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Audio Hijack Pro something I've just discovered
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just explained how you used Voiceover with Audio Hijack Pro 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <smile>, re-read and perhaps you'll see what I'm talking about.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/04/2010, at 11:26 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> High Dain,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't use Voice Over, then how does a person that cannot 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see get at it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is sighted help needed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My wife knows nothing about Mack systems, and I'm still learning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 5:35 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Audio Hijack Pro something I've just discovered
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I don't know who to give credit to for this but it seems 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that -f you're prepared to fiddle a bit - the Effects in Audio 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hijack Pro are accessible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, select the "Effects" tab and navigate to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scroll area, Interact with this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Move the mouse to the scroll area with vo-command-f5 and click, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a menu listing all the effects pops up, choose the one you want 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and press the return key.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now to clear the effect? Go into the "Control" menu of Audio 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hijack pro and select "Clear Effects".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, some problems still need to be addressed, you can't as far 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as I can tell adjust the effect or have more than one effect 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active at the same time - well at least you can't use Voiceover 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to accomplish these tasks - but perhaps if we keep gnawing away 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - as we have ben - at the developers then we'll continue to see 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements to what is an excellent product, Audio Hijack Pro 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is one of those products on the Mac that I myself couldn't do 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without as it can be put to so many uses, everything from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recording Skype and Ichat sessions to amplefying sound taken 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the line-in of the Mac.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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