what are your thoughts on the 12 ax 7 tubes? ----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 1:25 PM Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there?
High Garry, That is not really true. In the 1950's and 60's, some of them had to be portable. Sometimes, a PA system had to be sat up to address a small gathering of people. Like for instants, in schools sometimes in the class rooms. And also, some radio stations had to use them for remote broadcasting. But the amplifiers in them, put out no more then 20 to 70 watts of power. But that was just the mono mottles. The stereo mottles, had jacks on them that allowed you to hook up turntables and open real tape recorders. They put out a minimum of 70 to a maximum of 100 watts per channel. So you see, they had to be portable so that they could be carried from one place to another. However, the higher powered ones, weren't light wait. And the kinds of tubes that they used were either 7581's or 6550's. Some of them, used either 6P35's or 6CA7's. These were the kinds of power tubes they used. They all used either ECC83's or 12AX7's for preamp tubes. Some of them, used tubes like the 6DJ8 which is being called, the 6922 tube today. They also used the ECC99 which is being called, the 12BF7 tube today. There were some which are now being dubbed as odd tubes today being used in the preamps of those mixers. Tubes like the 6AU6 which is not being made anymore, and the EF86 tube. Personally, I don't see how could some of those PA systems could be called portable. I say this because, some of them are as big as 19 to 25 inch TV sets. My best regards. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Schindler" <garys5...@comcast.net> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 3:29 AM Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there? >I agree with you. usually solid state mixers sound cold compared to the >tube predecessors. if you had a vacuum tube mixer it wouldn't be portable >anyway. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:56 PM > Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there? > > >> High Garry, >> I've been fooling around with audio equipment since I was 5 years old. >> I've seen and heard it all. >> Nothing sounds like a vacuum tube except a real live vacuum tube. >> The simulators don't come close to it. >> My best regards. >> John. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gary Schindler" <garys5...@comcast.net> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 7:23 PM >> Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there? >> >> >>> not for that price, they just simulate the British EQ effects. I >>> personally would opt for the optional battery powered one. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 7:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there? >>> >>> >>>> High Tom, >>>> Are you saying, some of these mixers have vacuum tubes in them? >>>> John. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Tom" <t...@pc-audio.org> >>>> To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 4:42 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Best portable mike mixer out there? >>>> >>>> >>>> Kathy, >>>> >>>> Here's a few mixers that might meet your needs. >>>> >>>> Behringer XENYX-502 >>>> 5 Input 2 Bus Mixer w/EQ >>>> Behringer XENYX-502 5 Input 2 Bus Mixer w/EQ >>>> Small, Affordable and Great Sounding! The new 2-Bus XENYX 502 >>>> has 5 inputs and main mix, stereo CD/tape plus separate >>>> headphone outputs, and boasts the new XENYX Mic Preamp, which >>>> matches the sound quality, transparency, headroom and dynamic >>>> range of a boutique-styled, standalone mic preamp. Featuring >>>> a neo-classic "British-Style" 2- band EQ, which gives the >>>> warmth and musicality of those '60s and '70s mega-console >>>> desks, the XENYX 502 offers assignable CD/tape inputs for >>>> routing flexibility, and comes in an ultra low-noise, high >>>> headroom design. >>>> Main Features: >>>> . Premium ultra low-noise, high headroom analog mixer >>>> . State-of-the-art XENYX Mic Preamp comparable to stand-alone >>>> boutique preamps (no 48V phantom power on the XENYX 502) >>>> . Neo-classic "British" 2-band EQ for warm and musical sound >>>> . Main mix, stereo CD/tape plus separate headphone outputs >>>> . CD/tape inputs assignable to headphone output or main mix >>>> outputs >>>> . High-quality components and exceptionally rugged >>>> construction ensure long life >>>> $44.99 >>>> >>>> Behringer XENYX-802 >>>> 8 Input 2 Bus Mixer w/EQ >>>> Behringer XENYX-802 8 Input 2 Bus Mixer w/EQ >>>> Small, Affordable and Great Sounding! The new 2-Bus XENYX 802 >>>> has 8 inputs and an FX Send control for each channel, and >>>> boasts 2 XENYX Mic Preamps, which match the sound quality, >>>> transparency, headroom and dynamic range of boutique-styled, >>>> standalone mic preamps. Featuring a neo-classic >>>> "British-Style" 3- band EQ, which gives the warmth and >>>> musicality of those '60s and '70s mega-console desks, the >>>> XENYX 802 offers assignable CD/tape inputs for routing >>>> flexibility, and comes in an ultra low-noise, high headroom >>>> design. >>>> Main Features: . Premium ultra low-noise, high headroom >>>> analog mixer . 2 state-of-the-art XENYX Mic Preamps >>>> comparable to stand-alone boutique preamps; 48V phantom power >>>> . Neo-classic "British" 3-band EQs for warm and musical sound >>>> . 1 post fader FX send per channel for external FX devices . >>>> 1 stereo aux return for FX applications or as separate stereo >>>> input . Main mix outputs plus separate control room, phones >>>> and stereo CD/tape outputs . CD/tape inputs assignable to >>>> main mix or control room/phones outputs . High-quality >>>> components and exceptionally rugged construction ensure long >>>> life. >>>> $59.99 >>>> >>>> Behringer XENYX-1002B >>>> 10-Input 2-Bus Mixer with XENYX Preamps and Optional Battery >>>> Operation >>>> Behringer XENYX-1002B 10-Input 2-Bus Mixer with XENYX Preamps >>>> and Optional Battery Operation >>>> The Behringer XENYX 1002B is a 10-Input 2-bus mixer offering >>>> two high quality XENYX mic preamps, "British" 3-band EQs for >>>> classic, warm sound and optional battery operation. Behringer >>>> XENYX 1002B Features: . Premium ultra-low noise analog mixer >>>> with optional battery operation . 2 state-of-the-art XENYX >>>> Mic Preamps comparable to stand-alone boutique preamps . >>>> Neo-classic ''British'' 3-band EQs for warm and musical sound >>>> . 4 balanced, high-headroom stereo inputs with 3 additional >>>> mic inputs . One post-fader FX send and one pre-fader MON >>>> send per channel for external FX devices and monitor >>>> applications . Clip LEDs on all channels and dedicated >>>> inserts on all mono channels . Main output plus separate >>>> Phones and CD/Tape outputs . Switchable phantom power for >>>> condenser microphones . Long-wearing 60-mm logarithmic-taper >>>> master fader and sealed rotary controls . External power >>>> supply for noise-free audio and superior transient response . >>>> High-quality components and exceptionally rugged construction >>>> . Conceived and designed by BEHRINGER Germany >>>> $99.99 >>>> >>>> ** Message From: Kathy Szinnyey ** >>>> >Hey, guys and gals! 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