sounds good to me John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net>
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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: Ditgetel Talking Player Revisited
High Garry,
Those tubes are still in high demand today.
Professional musicians and audio phials like me, are using them in their
guitar and hi phi amplifiers.
Pared up with a really good set of power tubes like the 6550 KT88 5881 6L6
6CA7 EL34 or KT77 tubes, they can and do sound really good.
I use all of those tubes in various amplifiers.
Some in my bass heads, others in hi phi amplifiers that I either have
lying around the house, or amplifiers that I have built myself.
If I can get the EL84 tube to work in place of the 6P19 tube, those old
talking book record players will be going again.
But what I think I will do with those, is use the amplifiers in those old
machines as mono blocks.
The speakers in those machines are still good, so I mite build a pare of
speaker boxes that are big enough to house both the speakers and
amplifiers.
I will just use an off the shelf mixer to run both of the turntables.
My best regards.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Schindler" <garys5...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: Ditgetel Talking Player Revisited
Actually it was in the sixties. most of the time, I found people with
boxes of tubes in the garrage if I could. I would try to get matched
pairs if I bought tubes like a 12-AU-7 or 12-AX-7.
----- Original Message -----
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net>
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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: Ditgetel Talking Player Revisited
High Garry,
You are correct, that is a power tube.
The 6P19 tube was also used as a receiver to the picture tube in small
black and white television sets in the 1950's through the mid 1960's.
A Russian company called Sovtek, makes the 6C19PI tube.
But that is a totally different circuit altogether.
The 6C19PI is actually 2 tubes inside of 1 bottle.
It is a pentode and a triode altogether in 1 bottle like I said above.
The 6P19 which use to be made by RCA GE and Sylvania, is a pentode.
But I think it is backwards compatible with the 6BQ5 tube.
Which is being called, the EL84 tube today.
Did you say 50 cents a tube?
I used to get those little tubes for a quarter a peace and those big
tubes all depending on which power tube, for a half dollar a peace.
But this was back in the mid to late 70's.
My best regards.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Schindler" <garys5...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: Ditgetel Talking Player Revisited
that is exactly what I would do. google for a company that sells used
replacement tubes and you might get lucky to find the 6P19 tubes
somewhere. I think that is a power tube. at the time I could buy
replacement tubes for fifty cents a piece. that was a long time ago.
good luck with the tube search.
----- Original Message -----
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net>
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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: Ditgetel Talking Player Revisited
Hello Garry,
I still have a copal of those old talking book record players.
I could get them to work if only I could find replacement tubes for
the 6P19 tubes.
Those amplifiers in those old machines, are push-pull.
You have 6 tubes in the amplifier altogether.
2 12EF7 tubes 2 12AX7 tubes and 2 6P19 tubes.
The 6P19 tube isn't being made any more.
That tube was taken out of production in 1979.
But I think I can rewire the sockets to run the EL84 tubes.
I will just have to do some home work on it.
If I can do that and get away with it, I will just convert the
machines to stand alone turntables and put stereo cartridges in both
of them.
It would sound really sweet I bet.
My best regards.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Schindler" <garys5...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: Ditgetel Talking Player Revisited
those adapters were no fun, we used to use a lathe and what ever
materials we had on hand to make caps that would fit over the drive
motor. this would include dialing, plastic, fiberglass, pen caps,
metal tubing, etc.
when schools and blind associations got rid of the tube models, a
bunch of us had lots of parts to interchange.
many of the amplifiers became part of a makeshift stereo.
the transistor models weren't good for much other than playing
talking books.
----- Original Message -----
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net>
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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: Ditgetel Talking Player Revisited
Hello Garry and all others,
In the early 1960's, they introduced transistor record players that
had a verriple speed control knob on them.
If you sat the mane speed lever to 33 and a third, all you had to do
was turn that knob up as high as it would go.
It would play 78 records at that setting.
Slow it down to 16, it would play 45 records.
As for that diamond head needle, there were a few commercial record
players that used them
Record players that went as far back as the mid 1930's up to 1989.
They are still sailing these old machines on eBay.
My best regards.
John.
PS. They were used allot in public schools.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Schindler" <garys5...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: Ditgetel Talking Player Revisited
that is why people like me made adapters for 45 rpm records who
wanted them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: Ditgetel Talking Player Revisited
Hello Tom,
Lock me up and throw away the key!
When I was only 10 years of age, I received a talking book record
player and a C-77 talking book cassette player.
I was told that you couldn't play music tapes and records on those
machines.
But I got away with doing that with both of them.
The only thing with the record player, you couldn't play 45 and or
78 records on them because there wasn't any speed positions for
those 2 speeds.
But you were able to play 33 and a third record LP's without any
problems at all!
And I did, and enjoyed it too!
So again, lock me up and throw away the key!
My best regards.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Kaufman" <tomca...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: Ditgetel Talking Player Revisited
I would imagine that if you speak with someone from a library,
they're naturally gonna tell you that you can't play anything on
these players but books; it's like (in the old days)..folks would
sometimes say you weren't supposed to play anything but talking
book records on the old talking book players! I've never really
heard a definitive answer for that one; all I know is: people used
to do it all the time (played their records on the talking book
machines)..now it might be a thing where..the needles were
bigger..and the grooves in the old talking book records were
bigger; I don't know for sure..but oh yeah..playing record albums
on talking book machines was a practice that people did a lot! But
I'm fairly certain that..if one had talked with their
librarian..I'm sure they would have said "Oh no; you're not
supposed to play records on these machines!"
Tom Kaufman
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