If there is a real problem with the interface, how about a petition to
Creative labs?  The blind community has made people listen with other
petitions.

Judy 

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Victoria Vaughan
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:40 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

Hi, Was this Florida person, a personal friend of yours?  If  not, how did
you find him and wouldn't it cost quite a bit to get a regular programmer to
learn Jaws script and write it for you?

That's  something quite out of my computer person's knowledge and my
finances

.  Please everyone, share your solutions, work arounds or known resources!

Vicky----- Original Message -----
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


> High all list members,
> In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't.
> Where there is a will, there is a way.
> I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it.
> I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1.
> But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to 
> write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do.
> The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound 
> cards.
> Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their 
> products, but that doesn't always happen.
> This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough to

> find work arounds for us to use.
> Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem.
> My best regards to you all!
>  John.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" <d...@drakelroy.com>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM
> Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
>
>
>> Ok, how?  Seriously, I'm listening.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>> On Behalf Of Sunshine
>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
>>
>> yes they do work.
>> I use he creative card you use and i have no problem  getting into the
>> controls.  to change things.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" <d...@drakelroy.com>
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM
>> Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
>>
>>
>> Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling?  Is our
>> money somehow less good than anybody elses?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>> On Behalf Of Sunshine
>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
>>
>> dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you 
>> have
>> had  trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you  should  try 
>> and
>> get others to switch away from something that works for them.
>> while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time 
>> depending
>>
>> on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the  parts

>> of
>>
>> the creative product you have.
>> anyone want to comment on that one.
>> not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" <d...@drakelroy.com>
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM
>> Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.
>>
>>
>> No, I have not made any progress.  I unloaded all things soundblaster and
>> Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic 
>> drivers.
>> Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls.  Pam sent an email
>> from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so 
>> today I
>> googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely
>> nowhere.  I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose 
>> area,
>> but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone
>> listening to it ring for probably half an hour.  So I just started 
>> punching
>> in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna.  I expressed 
>> my
>> concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs
>> product.  Will I get a return call?  Probably not.  Clearly, this is a
>> company that does not deserve our patronage.  Please reconsider if you 
>> are
>> thinking about buying Creative Labs.
>>
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