Ray,

I seem to be getting on quite well with QuickTime now.  It is a stand-alone
application, so you can have an icon for it on your desktop and launch it
from there.  I think there was some reference to playing files directly from
the internet in the documentation I read about it, but this isn't what I
wanted to do anyway so I didn't look into that too closely.

So far so good though, although one day I do hope I'll have the patience to
find out why the WMV files failed so miserably for me.

Caroline. 

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Sent: 03 November 2009 00:38
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Subject: RE: Problems Playing WMV and MOV Files

Caroline, I omitted to say there is something called Quicktime Alternative
which is supposed to make life easier for screen reader users, though it
wasn't developped specially for us.  I think it allows you to play material
outside of the browser rather than the ebbeding imposed by web designers
when
using Quictime.  there is a Wiki on Quicktime Alternative should you want to
follow that up, but you seem to be getting along with QT.

Must admit it's ages since I sued the IPlayer downloader.  I just stream TV
programmes now.  Often wondered if it's possible to record the video as well
as the sound while watching, but not looked into that.

Do let us know if you have success getting downloaded programmes to play in
WMP.
Ray

Caroline Ford wrote:
Ray,

I have at last managed to find a solution of sorts.  A download of QuickTime
for Windows has at least allowed me to play my MOV file.  I am now
re-downloading the WMV files in MOV format to be able to play those too as
the WMV files still stubbornly refuse to play.  I've read through the help
on the iPlayer site but it didn't address the problem I have.  I think no
DRM licences are being downloaded although WMP is set to allow them.  It is
all rather frustrating, but at least I have found a workaround.  As you say,
QuickTime is not the most accessible player ever invented, but I have found
enough keystrokes to make it usable.

I don't think my situation was helped by me still having the old iPlayer
Download Manager instead of the newer version.  That just shows how long it
is since I last tried to download anything from the iPlayer.  Strangely
enough it didn't even prompt me that I still had an obsolete version of the
downloader on my PC and I only found out about it from the article you
posted and then the iPlayer help.

Definitely a work in progress.

Caroline.

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ray
Sent: 01 November 2009 22:28
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Problems Playing WMV and MOV Files

Caroline, I'm not surprised the Beeb isn't making it easy to play downloaded
files in other media players because, after all, the licence you're granted
to
play these does in the normal way of playing them expire in 28 days or
something like that.

I wonder though if there is an extra DRM module or plug-in for Windows Media
Player that would allow you to play these programs in WMP.  The BBC itself
might be prepared to answer this question.

As an aside I'm rather surprised the Beeb hasn't closed the seeming loop
hole
where people are downloading radio programmes as that's not what is supposed
to happen.  there agreement with copyright holders is for 7 days streaming
availability after a programme goes out.  Still, a bit off the subject I
know.

Hope you get an answer to this Caroline and I see you've posted this issue
on
Access-UK so who knows, maybe an answer will yet surface there.

Ray

Caroline Ford wrote:
Ray,

Thank you for the advice.  I have read the article but it doesn't seem to
offer much help as to what the problem is.  The files I am trying to play
are downloaded programmes from the BBC iPlayer so they will have DRM
protection.  I have been able to stream a short sample of these programmes
successfully just to make sure everything was working properly, and then
proceeded to download the two versions on offer, one for portable players
and one for Windows Media Player.  Neither of these will play on my PC.  I
don't know whether there's something I need to do to allow Windows Media
Player to play DRM files, but I have checked for updates and am already
running version 11 with no updates on offer.  I'm surprised the BBC have
made it so fiendishly difficult to play these files.  Perhaps they prefer
people just to stream their programmes instead.

Caroline.




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