Where do you get it and what is the cost? In the conversion process do you lose any of the quality?
-----Original Message----- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Les Gordon Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:18 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: converting other file types hi, i use digital media pro 2.3 that can convert most of those file types include dvd and others. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald" <donald.goos...@sbcglobal.net> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: converting other file types > On a similar subject about file conversion, is there a program that will > convert wma to mp3? How much quality is lost in the process? > > -----Original Message----- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:52 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats > > Thanks all for the information. I personally didn't interpret "do not > decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the Audible Content" as > prohibiting me from converting the media format. Maybe if it had said > electronic content instead of "audible content" I might have interpreted > it differently. After all, you are allowed to download it, stream it and > write it to CD for your own personal use. Granted, I might have read > this with a pair of rose colored glasses on. > > I guess my main point was two fold. First, I saw quite a few sites which > claimed that their product was a legal way to convert Audible files into > other formats and other sites which talked about what was and wasn't > legal given Audible's terms and conditions, the DMAC, fair use and court > cases, which lead me to believe that it isn't clear what is and isn't > legal in this case. > > Second, as others have stated on this list, I doubt any company or law > enforcement agency would prosecute anyone who was making copies for > their own personal use and was scrupulous about making sure those copies > didn't end up in anyone else's hands. Note that I also feel it's clear > that sharing these files, even with a few friends, is illegal, although > maybe not unethical. > > Richard Claypool wrote: >> Hi, >> >> there is fair use, but the digital molenium copyright act prohibits >> breaking encryption on files. This has been one of the complaints of >> people for ages that they can't make a personal backup of say a dvd >> for thier own use because it violates the DMCA. >> Rick >> twitter >> http://twitter.com/elheme >> >> msn >> bellevue....@gmail.com >> skype >> lord_of_beer >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt" >> <adr...@adrianspratt.com> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:46 AM >> Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats >> >> >>> Bruce, >>> >>> This is an intelligent but very literal reading. I don't know about >>> Canada, but in the US, copyright law has a fair use exception. There >>> is really nothing to stop an individual from making copies or >>> otherwise using products they own for their own purposes. I assume >>> the manufacturer's purpose behind the provision you quote is to >>> discourage dissemination of these materials. But if individuals don't >>> have that intention, I doubt the manufacturer would have any reason >>> to care. Correct me if I'm overlooking something. All that said, I >>> share your concern that we all respect copyrighted materials and use >>> them only for ourselves and maybe a friend or two. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bruce Toews" <br...@ogts.net> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:53 AM >>> Subject: Re: converting Audible files to other formats >>> >>> It says you shall not modify or disassemble the content. >>> >>> Bruce >>> >>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Christopher Chaltain wrote: >>> >>> I'm not sure this is true. I may not be able to interpret all of the >>> legal jargon, but I think Audible's terms and conditions plus "fair >>> use" in the US would allow you to convert Audible books into another >>> format for your own personal use. >>> >>> Audible's terms and conditions at >>> http://www.audible.com/adbl/faqs/terms.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes say the >>> following: >>> >>> 6. Grants of Licenses >>> >>> a. Audible Content License. When you "clickout" or otherwise >>> "purchase" (referred to herein, collectively as "Purchase") Audible >>> Content from the Audible Service, Audible grants you a limited, >>> revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to download or >>> stream such Audible Content to your computer and/or your Device(s) >>> solely for your personal non-commercial use. You shall not copy, >>> reproduce, distribute or use the Audible Content in any other manner. >>> You shall not sell, transfer, lease, modify, distribute or publicly >>> perform the Audible Content in any manner and you shall not exploit >>> it commercially. Do not (A) decompile, disassemble, or reverse >>> engineer the Audible Content or attempt to do so; or (B) modify the >>> Audible Content or create any derivative works therefrom. This >>> license to the Audible Content you Purchase will continue for as long >>> as your copy of Audible Content exists pursuant to and in accordance >>> with the terms and conditions of this Agreement. >>> >>> In doing some searching on the web, there are quite a few sites that >>> say converting Audible books to MP3 is legal in the US under "fair >>> use" while others say that Audible's terms and conditions preclude >>> doing this. I'm not sure that I've seen anything definitive on either >>> side though. A lot of people say it's illegal without quoting any >>> laws or T&C's, while others say it can't be illegal due to "fair >>> use", but I'm not sure they understand "fair use" or not. For my >>> part, I would think it is legal to convert and Audible file to MP3, >>> but I would not give this MP3 file to anyone or place it anywhere >>> where anyone else to get to it. If you do this, I doubt a law >>> enforcement agency here in the US would go after you. >>> >>> Bruce Toews wrote: It can't be legally done. The terms of service to >>> which you agreed prohibit it. >>> >>> Bruce >>> >>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Sylvia wrote: >>> >>> Hi list, I recently joined Audible, and I wanted to find out if there >>> are any programs that will allow you to convert Audible files to the >>> mp3 format. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. 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