No problem,  I just think they want to keep it quiet since it's quite 
sensitive what they have there.  Who knows others have told me off list they 
don't care.  So my apologies if this is now the case.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terese Ann Goren" <ter...@tgoren.com>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads


Sorry, I assumed since it was easily found on the net and I've heard
others mention it on other email lists, it would be okay to share.  I
apologize.

At 12:16 PM 3/6/2009, you wrote:
>This is a private list.  You are not supposed to be publically announcing
>it.  THat is a violation of that lists rules.
>
>Rick
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Terese Ann Goren" <ter...@tgoren.com>
>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:56 AM
>Subject: Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads
>
>
>it is an email list.  You can subscribe at
>blindmoviebuff-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
>
>At 12:05 AM 3/6/2009, you wrote:
> >So, what is the URL of the Blind Movie Buff list, to save me a hunt,
> >if you please?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mac Norins
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Terese Ann Goren" <ter...@tgoren.com>
> >To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:07 PM
> >Subject: Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads
> >
> >
> >I get tons of us tv that has been described by  groups overseas,  I
> >know quite a bit of described dvd's can be purchased on amazon.uk
> >More information can be found on the blind movie buff list.
> >
> >At 07:25 PM 3/5/2009, you wrote:
> > >Lots of UK stuff supports DVS from what I've heard.
> > >
> > >Rick
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Lauren" <lotusris...@att.net>
> > >To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:27 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads
> > >
> > >
> > >I have to disagree and know that NFB did not at the very least help the
> > >cause to have DVS which I really find helpful.
> > >
> > >Back to the topic however, are there any programs from PBS or UK that
> > >contain DVS?
> > >
> > >
> > >Sincerely,
> > >
> > >Lauren
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "David R. Stayer" <davidandlorista...@verizon.net>
> > >To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:17 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads
> > >
> > >
> > > > Shalom.  I do not want to argue with you , but NFB did not do 
> > > > anything
> > > > to
> > > > destroy the availability of DVDS in the United ?States.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Mac Norins" <macata...@cox.net>
> > > > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:56 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> No, I was referring to his sarcasm about what planet Cane was
> > on; totally
> > > >> unnecessary!
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Rick Harmon" <rickhar...@sbcglobal.net>
> > > >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:48 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Mac,
> > > >>
> > > >> If you are referring to the NFB statement he's correct.  The NFB 
> > > >> did
> > > >> everything within their ability to destroy DVS in the united states
> > > >> and
> > > >> succeeded in their task almost completely..
> > > >>
> > > >> Rick
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Mac Norins" <macata...@cox.net>
> > > >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:26 PM
> > > >> Subject: Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Cane,
> > > >>
> > > >> I think your point is well taken, while Dave's is just a bit of
> > > >> unnecessary
> > > >> sarcasm!
> > > >>
> > > >> Mac Norins
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Kane Brolin" <kbroli...@gmail.com>
> > > >> To: <j...@freelists.org>
> > > >> Cc: "Blind iPod Mailing List" <blindi...@freelists.org>;
> > > >> <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:41 PM
> > > >> Subject: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi, folks.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm probably about to ask a question that's painfully obvious to
> > > >> many.
> > > >> But I'm showing up at the descriptive video/SAP party much later 
> > > >> than
> > > >> some.  I'm writing to the JAWS list because I am a JAWS user.  I'm
> > > >> writing to the Blind iPod list because purchasing video content on
> > > >> iTunes is now accessible through use of the J-tunes interface.  So 
> > > >> I
> > > >> hope others view this question as at least somewhat relevant.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm presuming, first of all,  that most Hollywood feature films on
> > > >> DVD
> > > >> come with a descriptive video track encoded somewhere on them.  I'm
> > > >> presuming the same could be true with downloadable films and TV
> > > >> shows,
> > > >> too, as from iTunes.  Certainly, most DVDs representing TV programs
> > > >> where action was described in the first place, should have that 
> > > >> same
> > > >> DVS output on the subsequent DVD release.  If this is true, I'm
> > > >> wondering about the following:
> > > >>
> > > >> 1.  How can I be sure, if a film or TV show is downloaded, to get 
> > > >> the
> > > >> download version that has descriptive video encoded?  Is there a 
> > > >> good
> > > >> source for such material?  Is there a way I can know for sure about
> > > >> this feature before I buy?
> > > >>
> > > >> 2.  When playing such downloaded or DVD content on the computer, is
> > > >> there a software player that is fairly accessible and which also 
> > > >> has
> > > >> a
> > > >> menu option I can invok for activating or turning off the
> > > >> descriptions?  I've not seen this in RealPlayer or Windows Media
> > > >> Player, but maybe I'm just not looking in the right place.
> > > >>
> > > >> 3.  Am I being completely naive here?  Obviously, I know a lot of
> > > >> stuff isn't accessible on its face, and I realize legislation in
> > > >> front
> > > >> of Congress is attempting to make much of this universal.  I've 
> > > >> heard
> > > >> of some people going to a place like the Serotek network to 
> > > >> download
> > > >> versions of films that have been uploaded specifically for those
> > > >> wanting video description.  But is this truly necessary?  Or can 
> > > >> the
> > > >> same content be obtained through regular channels with just a 
> > > >> little
> > > >> bit of work on the part of the blind consumer?
> > > >>
> > > >> Just trying to get a handle on this issue, for my own benefit and 
> > > >> for
> > > >> others I may encounter.
> > > >>
> > > >> Kind regards,
> > > >>
> > > >> -Kane
> > > >>
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