It is fine that the CBC don't use equalisation, but I wish they would use some kind of limiter on their internet streams. I was listening to a CBC station the other day via the internet and their volume levels were all over the place. I don't know if the BBC use a limiter, but the volume levels on their internet streams are much more uniform.
Regards, Barry Chapman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Seed" <bobs...@tbaytel.net> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 1:51 PM Subject: Re: Does the sound quality of different software media players differ? There has been an ongoing debate for years as to whether or not radio stations should use a graphic equalizer on the output of their signal. The general consensus is that the listener would much rather prefer making the equilization adjustments on their own receiver. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation puts out a flat audio source leaving the final adjustments to the listener. Keep in mind that in some cases line equalization is necessary in order to balance out the audio if by chance it sounds tinny. The best audio files swear by their vacuum tube technology. They say that the audio that comes out of a tube amplifier has a ritch and warm sound. I for one agree. ----- Original Message ----- From: "André van Deventer" <andred...@webafrica.org.za> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:47 PM Subject: RE: Does the sound quality of different software media players differ? Hi John And using an amplifier with vacuum tub es, am I right in thinking you also prefer not to use any kind of equalization at all? Andre -----Original Message----- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P Sent: 28 December 2008 09:22 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Does the sound quality of different software media players differ? Hello guise and girls, I have two sound cards in my computer. One of them for the audio, is going in to a speaker system that uses a pare of vacuum tube amplifiers. The other one, is hooked up to a pare of computer speakers. These are the ones that I listen to jaws through. Rather I'm using WMP WINAMP or Real Player, they all sound the same to me. It all depends on the audio files. If they're over compressed, the vacuum tubes in my amplifiers will let you hear that. My best regards! John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana S. Leslie" <dsles...@alumni.princeton.edu> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 4:17 AM Subject: Re: Does the sound quality of different software media players differ? Well, I have a VERY high quality stereo sound system, through which I play the output of my computer's sound card. and, with that configuration, Winamp sans equalizer sounds much better, to my ear, than anything I can easily achieve with either WMP or Realplayer, even with their respective equalizers. The difference, I think, has to do mainly with the brightness and spaciousness of the mid range. ----- Original Message ----- From: "André van Deventer" <andred...@webafrica.org.za> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 4:02 AM Subject: RE: Does the sound quality of different software media players differ? And reality is also that equalizer settings does weaken the sound quality somewhat when they are used? You would not necessarily hear this on a set of computer speakers but you may here it on a good hifi stereo system. -----Original Message----- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: 28 December 2008 10:27 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Does the sound quality of different software media players differ? That's what I was talking about, too. I, too, can hear a difference in the sound quality between, for example, Winamp and WMP, even when each has its equalizer disabled. In fact, that is how I habitually use them -- with equalizer disabled. But, perhaps, the difference both your friend and I can hear has nothing to do with the technical quality of either player. Perhaps, each could be made to sound like the other, if its equalizer were enabled and sufficiently tweaked. But, since we prefer the sound quality that Winamp produces sans equalizer, why bother with tweaking WMP or Realplayer, to sound like Winamp. It makes more sense just to use Winamp sans equalizer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "André van Deventer" <andred...@webafrica.org.za> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 2:31 AM Subject: RE: Does the sound quality of different software media players differ? > Hi all > > Perhaps I have not explained myself properly. > > What I am thinking about is the sound quality of a player without > using any kind of equalisation at all. The kind of sound setup I have > does not need any kind of equalization. > > A friend of mine said that she can hear a difference in sound quality > between winamp and media player with the equalizer disabled in both > players. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org > [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie > Sent: 28 December 2008 07:54 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Does the sound quality of different software media > players differ? > > This is funny. I think we have an ambiguity going on here, between two > senses of "quality." When I first read the question in the subject > line, I took it to refer to the *qualitative* "feel" of the sound > produced by different players, as opposed to the *quantitative* > numbers at which they might test out in a sound lab; and, in the > *qualitative* sense of "quality", I definitely do hear differences > between different players. The differences I hear may well be due to > different default settings. If I tweaked one player of whose sound I > am not that fond, I might well get it to sound close to another player > whose sound I prefer. But that is why I prefer the sound of the player > whose sound I don't have to tweak to make it sound as I think it > ought; because I don't have to tweak it. > > NONE of this talk of the quality of the sound produced by a player has > anything to do with the good vs. bad scoring a player might receive in > a sound lab's test of its technical specifications. In this regard, I > suspect you are right; all the players would score pretty much alike. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Chaltain" <cchalt...@austin.rr.com> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 11:17 PM > Subject: Re: Does the sound quality of different software media > players differ? > > >> I'm no audiophile, and my ears aren't what they used to be, but I >> would be a little surprised if there were any noticeable difference >> in the quality of the output you get from different media players. I >> haven't researched this in particular, but the different reviews I've >> read of the different media players talk about features, ease of use, >> bloat ware, .... I've never seen a review talk about sound quality of >> one software media player over another. I wonder how much of this >> perceived differences in the players is due to default equalizer >> settings? IMHO, if someone likes the sound they're getting from one >> player over another than that's the player they should be using. I >> think the test Steve describes would be interesting, but people >> wouldn't have to guess which layer was which but just rather which >> one > they preferred. >> >> Like I said, I'd be a bit surprised if there were a noticeable >> difference in sound quality between the players, but it wouldn't be >> the first time I was surprised over something like this. >> >> DJ DOCTOR P wrote: >>> Hello Steve, >>> I have used media players such as VLC WMP and WINAMP. >>> And for a while, I also used Real Media Player, they all sound >>> pretty much the same to me. >>> I haven't heard Foobar 2000 yet, I couldn't find the website to >>> download it to try it out. >>> I guess some things sound different to different people. >>> My best regards! >>> John. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Pattison" >>> <s...@internode.on.net> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:18 PM >>> Subject: Re: Does the sound quality of different software media >>> players differ? >>> >>> >>>> An interesting way to test this would be to play a song to someone >>>> using say Foobar, Winamp and Windows Media Player without them >>>> knowing which player was playing the song and then see if they >>>> could identify the players correctly. 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