Hi.  I think this discussion has really gone beyond what we're 
supposed to be talking about here so I'll just make my last comment 
on it by turning things back to some kind of audio related thing 
here.  I understand both points, I see how Darrell feels because on 
one hand people shouldn't have to jump through all kinds of hoops 
just to listen to the radio stations they want to. The player should 
be right there, something that almost anyone can use...I understand 
that.  But as I've said so so many times on every single list I've 
been on, this idea of "accessibility..it's just so incredibly 
objective.  I've been able to tackle a few programs and websites that 
some of my friends seem to struggle with all the time, so to me, the 
website or program in question is accessible to *me* because I know 
how to use it. However to them, it's not, because they struggle with 
it. It's a very personal sort of deal.  The idea of "accessibility 
for all" sounds absolutely beautiful, but the fact remains people, 
that it just isn't going to happen, not without accessibility 
actually built in when a program, or a media player is *first* 
designed.  CBS Radio has no clue about how many blind people use the 
net, how the hell should they know?  Hell we're probably not even on 
some of their radar screens.  I'm glad that AOL at least understands 
that this player they plan to use may be difficult for some of us to 
access.  But before we start screaming "lawsuit" and yelling and 
screaming, let's actually get a look, or maybe I should say listen to 
the thing so that maybe we can offer them suggestions about how to 
improve not only the accessibility of it, but maybe the sound quality 
of it as well. I've heard some of the streams and some of them are a 
bit weird at times.  So let's wait and see what happens when this new 
player is released and as time goes on let's see how they do.

That's really the best idea I have here.




At 07:37 PM 6/8/2008, you wrote:
>Yeah, but yahoo has, at least found a solution; call or email them. In my
>experience, this has bearly been an inconvenience. I was on the phone in
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